Question:
Do you agree that cockfighting should be part of the national heritage of the Philippines?
Jonas
2010-03-21 21:58:06 UTC
Rep. Rodolfo Plaza is urging the National Commission for Culture and Arts and the National Historical Institute to declare cockfighting as part of the "intangible Philippine cultural heritage." He said that cockfighting is a popular, traditional and customary form of recreation and entertainment among Filipinos and this can be seen especially during holidays, fiestas, fairs and other events. http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/20100321/tel-lawmaker-wants-cockfighting-part-of-aebf494.html

He further mentioned that even Presidential Decree No. 449, or the Cockfighting Law, recognizes that cockfighting is a vehicle for the preservation and perpetuation of native Filipino heritage that enhances national identity.

However, cockfighting is a sport that is illegal in other countries, specifically the United States, Brazil and in most of Europe.

Do you agree with this lawmaker? Should cockfighting be part of our national heritage or not? Share your views now.
145 answers:
nail_angel
2010-03-22 00:03:05 UTC
Yes,,,, i don't know why!!! jejjee
koenen
2016-11-04 03:51:12 UTC
Cockfighting In The Philippines
prato
2016-10-26 04:16:07 UTC
Cockfighting In The Philippines
dudziak
2017-01-04 09:47:03 UTC
Cockfighting In Philippines
?
2010-03-22 13:47:04 UTC
I do and do not agree with that. I agree on the Religious aspects and freedoms, I abhor the torture or abuse of any living thing for pleasure or whatever a human being has thought of to justify it.

It is a part or it is an ancient practice that the Philippines have practiced for a long time, but it is not justified in any Humane way.

Cockfighting is thought to have began in what is called Indus Valley Civilization. (see link)

In Guam it has been accepted as a cultural tradition, but it is from the Spaniards that conquered the island.

cpy/pste from source second link:

In Guam the sport of cockfighting has been accepted as a cultural tradition dating back to the Spanish rule. Cockfighting became more popular with an influx of Filipino immigrants to the island before and after World War II. Cockfighting events are held throughout the week at a government licensed pit in the village of Dededo and in other villages during fiestas where a patron saint of that village is celebrated. Imported roosters and hens from the U.S. fetch a heavy price. On the island of Saipan, just north of Guam, cockfighting is also accepted as a cultural tradition. Legal cockfighting takes place several times a week in an arena called the "Dome", in the village of Gualo Rai.

So it is not actually a Filipino Heritage, it is a Spanish introduction.

also, same source:

Cockfighting in the Philippines is called "Sabong". There are illegal and legal cockfights.



Legal cockfights are held on cockpits every week. Illegal cockfights, called tupada or "tigbakay", happen any time in open areas. In both kind of cockfights, knives are used. Gloves are used for training purposes only.



Derbies are also held. These are cockfights where owners will field a fixed number of cocks. (e.g. 3-**** derby or 6-**** derby). The one with the most wins, wins the jackpot. The Philippines has hosted several World Slasher Derby.



There are 2 kinds of knives used in Philippine cockfighting. The single edge blade (use in derbies) and double edged blades.



All knives are attached on the left leg of the ****. But depending on the agreement between owners, blades can be attached on the right leg, or even on both legs.



Sabong and illegal tupada, are judged by a referee called sentensyador, whose verdict is final and not subject to any appeal.[11]

That pretty much explains it, it is an Imported Cruelty to Animals.

I am Buddhist and every other Religion that does no harm and practices Existing of all things.
?
2010-03-22 10:28:24 UTC
Never, cockfighting was a vice, not a form of recreation or entertainment, introduced to us by the Spaniards during their 300-year occupation to deliberately distant our minds from thinking and organizing for a revolution. Cockfighting is cruel to the animals involved, is a form of senseless gambling and it only gives the Filipino's an embarrassing image not a good national identity, much more make it an "intangible Philippine Cultural Heritage"?

Rep. Rodolfo Plaza is probably either a cockfighting/breeder addict or a cockfighting gambler. Could you congressman Plaza please make a more useful bill? or is this the best thing you could come up with?The taxes we ordinary working Filipino's pay, instead of buying food for our family, are taken to become your salary as a representative. Please don't waste our hard earned money.
?
2010-03-22 06:44:44 UTC
Cockfighting was introduced to the Philippines by the Chinese and Mexicans. This "bloodsport" originated in the Indus Valley as far back as 2000BC and introduced to India, China and Persia. This is not originally Filipino and should therefore not be made a part of our culture and heritage.



Two points to add:

1. It is illegal in most countries, and

2. It is cruel to animals (in this particular case fowl) as it involves death.



There are so many things that this good congressman should pay attention to. Just because it is popular to the "sabongero" does not mean it is popular with everyone else. And just because it is popular does not mean it should be made a part of our culture and heritage.



While cockfighting is considered a heinous blood sport by animal welfare and animal rights activists and others, due in some part to the physical trauma the cocks inflict on each other, advocates of the sport [who?] often list cultural and religious relevance as reasons for perpetuation of cockfighting as a sport.
?
2016-03-13 04:47:30 UTC
In Guam the sport of cockfighting has been accepted as a cultural tradition dating back to the Spanish rule. Cockfighting became more popular with an influx of Filipino immigrants to the island before and after World War II. Cockfighting events are held throughout the week at a government licensed pit in the village of Dededo and in other villages during fiestas where a patron saint of that village is celebrated. Imported roosters and hens from the U.S. fetch a heavy price. On the island of Saipan, just north of Guam, cockfighting is also accepted as a cultural tradition. Legal cockfighting takes place several times a week in an arena called the "Dome", in the village of Gualo Rai.
?
2010-03-22 07:05:59 UTC
Yes, cockfighting is already part of our national heritage.

Because of cockfighting, the Philippines has been spared of the "bird flu" pandemic even though migratory birds from China frequently visit our nation. This is because we are breeding the strongest and virus resistant chickens in the world.



Roosters have a chance of living long lives unlike poultry chickens which are meant to be consumed. Many roosters retire after just 3 fights. While 7 wins and the rooster retires and becomes king, they are well feed used exclusively for breeding with many different hens.



Cockfighting provides rights and the roosters are very well taken cared off. They usually have their own house unlike the packed slums of the poultry. If they get sick, they have healthcare because the handler will feed them vitamins. If they are wounded in the pit, every effort is undertaken to save their lives, such as stitching the wounds.



Handlers truly care for the chickens if not they would have eaten them or sent them to the poultry already.
jing
2010-03-22 05:11:13 UTC
Rep.Ompong Plaza was urging the National Commission for Culture and Arts and the National Historical Institute to declare cockfighting as part of the "intangible Philippine cultural heritage.Because his one of them...How wicked their mind that is why Philippines was sink in debt because of some people like...
Lisa
2016-04-14 04:35:08 UTC
Cockfighting has been practiced in the area (South East Asia) even before Magellan arrived there. It still is in a few areas. It is a big part of the culture and the history of the people. But is it a national heritage? I don't believe it is.
miguel_yorro
2010-03-22 18:37:12 UTC
Is cockfighting really purely Filipino? I mean, didn't it come from the Spanish people?



And what does it mean to have something be part of our "intangible Philippine cultural heritage"?





It is true that it is part of our customs to have cockfights every now and then. But it is also true that it is against animal rights. The two sides (pro and con) operate on different contexts.





I'm against it unless one can prove that it can solve some (if not all) of the country's problems. :)
?
2010-03-22 05:44:39 UTC
If heritage is of the past, makes us proud, unique and wanted it remembered to future generations of this country, then so be it. Cockfighting has it's advantages and disadvantages and there is no question about it. Please let be it known that many cockfighting financiers, afficionados and breeders come from the elite few of this country and it so happen that most of them are in the government. For the people who belong in the middles class and lower, there is nothing we can do but accept what the rich decides unless somebody from the middle class can make a turning point. It runs through our blood as they say and instead of working against it how about capturing the opportunities that it offers.
bertsin
2010-03-22 02:35:15 UTC
Cockfighting surely is a part of our national heritage and I believe we don't need any institute to declare it as such. It has been a source of entertainment And recreation even prior to the arrival of the spaniards.

I am in favor that cockfighting should remain regal. For your information, cockfighting is a part of the game fowl industry. Many people are dependent upon this industry as the only source of their livelihood-the Kristos in the sabungan, the gaffers, the handlers, the game farm helps, farmers, store owners and their employees, veterinarians and many others. Game fowl is a fast growing industry employing millions. I believe it even surpassed the poultry industry wherein it was a part of. And of course it is a great source of entertainment and recreation to many people in the far flung areas.

By the way if we make it illegal because of gambling, we should think twice dahil di lahat ng involve sa industry na ito ay gamblers. PS Boxing is gambling also and it is brutal and cruel also to humans not to animals
Jake
2010-03-22 14:05:00 UTC
Yes, I agree... cockfighting should be made a part of the national heritage of the Philippines. This sport is unique to the filipinos. It is a pastime for many filipinos. All over the country, you will always witness filipinos spending times at the cockpit. The sport gives sabong affectionados the thrill of their lives. Like bull fighting in Spain, where bullfight affectionados shout in unison when the matador hits his target on the helpless bull, the filipinos also shout in unison when the fighting cocks slug it out in the ring.
PJLuz L
2010-03-22 07:42:17 UTC
No way. Like fox hunting(banned), bullfighting(being banned) cockfighting is just another blood sport for bloodthirsty gamblers..It is not even Filipino in its origins.

NO TO BLOOD SPORTS. Listening to stupid arguments of using cockfighting as an excuse for recognition of a cultural heritage is a laugh a minute. Most people in Philippines have no interest in cockfighting , and it is almost exclusively a male domain.
2014-10-09 13:14:37 UTC
. Cockfighting has it's advantages and disadvantages and there is no question about it. Please let be it known that many cockfighting financiers, afficionados and breeders come from the elite few of this country and it so happen that most of them are in the government. For the people who belong in the middles class and lower, there is nothing we can do but accept what the rich decides unless somebody from the middle class can make a turning point. It runs through our blood as they say and instead of working against it how about capturing the opportunities that it offers.
?
2010-03-22 18:14:31 UTC
Cockfighting is also an industry. It helps breeders, farm hands, cockfighting arena owners, kristos, gaffers, the sidewalk vendors, the country's economy. It also serves as a cathartic outlet for most Pinoy males after each week's stress, thus, psychiatry is not a lucrative practice in the country. What is a Philippine fiesta without a gran encontrada? I go for this bill. Larga!
coup_de_grace
2010-03-22 07:09:29 UTC
hell yeah! Cockfighting has been in the country for a very long time.. it's a culture enjoyed both by the RICH and the POOR.. so let's say it promotes gambling, but cockfighting has outgrown this concept and generally it's now considered as a sport and hobby.. and let's not forget it brings livelihood to the poor.. and who says it's slavery? chickens are not ordered to kill each other! it's their instinct! if you leave to roosters together in a pen they'll slug it out to death.. and do you even know the painstaking labor endured by chicken men and all the pampering done to the roosters treating them like kings just to put them to tiptop shape to make them fight at their best? so it's a big GO to Rep. Plaza.. protect this sport and preserve it! speak for those caretakers who depend on this livelihood! it would be a shame to put away a sport elevated to a very high level because an ignorant considers it slavery and unjust!
marc
2010-03-22 06:46:13 UTC
Yes i do agree, the proponent of the bill certainly knows what he is talking about. I don't play sabong myself but I know cockfighting is a traditional and customary kind of entertainment among Filipinos.



Let other counties who consider cockfighting is illegal, then let them think whatever they feel, Let us have our own identity that Philippines is the Cockfighting Capital of the World.
?
2010-03-22 02:34:01 UTC
No. I do not agree with the lawmakers that cockfighting be part of our national heritage. We should show to the whole world that the Philippines is a civilized folk. Animal welfare should be part of our perpetuation of Filipino heritage. It is time to change our values and customs and show our wisdom not only in words but in actions.
?
2010-03-22 12:06:17 UTC
Yes I think that cockfighting should be part of the Philippine national heritage. For it has been going

on many years. Beside it is no more cruel than killing a chicken or roster for food and if the losing roster dies then it become dinner. Which give you betting, entertainment and dinner all round into one.
Raymund Anthony
2010-03-22 10:05:22 UTC
Cockfighting is part of our heritage. For those who feel ashamed based on what a bunch of foreigners think, you'd better have a better reason than that.



It is something that inspires awe in those that watch the matches. There is a certain grace to a well bred and well trained rooster. I once found myself watching the games without finding it necessary to gamble on them (although it makes it more interesting I must admit). We see the glory of bravery and the drama of defeat. Where if a rooster proves himself particularly valiant, is given the chance to live out it's life being a stud in a farm. Where the loser ends up as either dinner, or fertilizer.
Ahitraa
2014-11-29 11:19:21 UTC
proud, unique and wanted it remembered to future generations of this country, then so be it. Cockfighting has it's advantages and disadvantages and there is no question about it. Please let be it known that many cockfighting financiers, afficionados and breeders come from the elite few of this country and it so happen that most of them are in the government. For the people who belong in the middles class and lower, there is nothing we can do but accept what the rich decides u
2010-03-24 17:34:28 UTC
Yes, I agree. It should be part of our heritage since heritage is anything that has been transmitted from the past or handed down by tradition. It has been part of our culture even before Magellan came here. The cockfighting industry has been contributing to our economy since it is generating jobs and livelihood starting from the cockpits, farms, feed manufacturers, and etc. Mabuhay ang sabong! Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!
julius capistrano
2010-03-22 06:05:15 UTC
Yes! I agree that cockfighting should be part of our Intangible National Heritage. As my personal opinion, Majority of men in the Philippines including me and almost all men in our family chose "SABONG" as past time every weekend, holidays, and fiesta. Its a form of recreation and entertainment not only during hack fights and derbies, but also during breeding, rearing and conditioning. It is also a form of livelihood to other people engaged in breeding and cockpits administration. For me, its a fairer form of gambling compared to those being played in the casino wherein you only have two options to choose. MERON at WALA. It is also not easy to manipulate who's gonna win in the end.
2014-11-20 10:17:01 UTC
. Have they nothing else better to do in Congress than talk of cockfighting ? There are more urgent matters that must be attended to than just cockfighting.



No, it should not be a part of our heritage. There is nothing commendable about it.
cheezy blue fart
2010-03-22 20:10:12 UTC
No, this should not be part of the heritage of the Philippines or for any country, this is cruelty to animals and against the law of G-d; Genesis 9:4, which says -- to not eat the flesh of an animal while it is alive--or otherwise to put it bluntly NO CRUELTY TO ANIMALS, cockfighting is cruelty to animals. How would you feel if you are forced to fight like these poor animals.
?
2010-03-22 18:15:49 UTC
just because an activity has been practiced since time immemorial does not mean it is something we should carry on towards the future. correct me if i am wrong but isn't dog-eating also practiced in this country? next thing you know some "honorable" congressman of ours will want to glorify it as part of our national heritage. we now live in the 21st century, these sort of bloodsports are things of the past which we should learn to eventually let go of. practicing moral and ethical restraint are better qualities which we should now focus on developing. qualities which i believe would enhance our national identity more than cockfighting.
2010-03-22 17:44:25 UTC
Yes, cockfighting should be made part of our national heritage. Cockfighting, as an expensive sports and hobby, had been with us since the Spanish era. My family is known as breeders of champion **** fighters.
Eliseo L
2010-03-22 15:05:23 UTC
Use your commonsense folks. cockfighting been here before you created your imagination when it started. As for the gambling side its part of it but you are in control of it. If you want war in the Philippines get rid of cockfighting. Definitely cockfighting have its place there, I support Mr Plaza.
2010-03-22 06:01:48 UTC
I will put it this way, heritage as defined, meaning tradition.In other words, this kind of sport or whatever you call it, has been handed down from generation to generation. We havn't exist yet but this event already been happening.



To those who disagree, it is your choice. But remember, this is one of the favorite pastime of our great great great grandparents. Kayo rin baka multohin nang lolo nang lolo nang lolo nyo because you seems to disagree what the have been doing. And much more, as if you are saying that they are wrong. Another thing, you can watch this game without betting.



Speaking of being cruel or barbaric, I dont think it is because you have to kill the chicken when you eat them regardless of being a fighting **** or a 45 days old chicken. What is funny and cruel or barbaric when you eat the chicken alive.



I go for cockfighting inclusion in our heritage provided all cocks are of pure native breeds. I think this

is more sporty.
2014-10-27 04:13:07 UTC
part of our "intangible Philippine cultural heritage"?





It is true that it is part of our customs to have cockfights every now and then. But it is also true that it is against animal rights. The two sides (pro and con) operate on different co
?
2016-02-17 19:30:06 UTC
There are 2 kinds of knives used in Philippine cockfighting. The single edge blade (use in derbies) and double edged blades.
Don S
2010-03-22 20:12:42 UTC
It's the only entertainment the local folks can afford to see. If the world allows bullfighting in Spain and Mexico why not allow cockfighting in the Philippines and elsewhere.
Jojo
2010-03-22 03:22:23 UTC
I agree that cockfighting should be part of the national heritage of the Philippines. Geographically cockfighting may be found in all regions of the Philippines. Historically it existed even before the spaniards came and has in fact been mentioned in various accounts of Spanish Historians. Cockfighting is often seen in the negative side as it is the betting which is more often hi-lighted. On the contrary however, the tradition has survived many generations and has evolved to become one of the most lucrative endeavors in Philippine way of life. More than just the betting, cockfighting involves varied activities whcih makes it an institution. In the cockpit various business activities transpire. More keenly, aside from the different canteens found therein, their are vendors of different foodstuff being peddeled, from bottled water to sandwiches and whatever one can think of. There are groups of animal doctors who are paid by the medical procedure they do to wounded roosters. There is a group of gaffers who earn income by tying the gaffs. There is a group of judges commonly known as sentenciadors who earn a living by being the refferee of the game. There is a group of bet collectors, bet callers, sweepers on the arena as well as all other employees from the electrician to the janitors and security office who maintains the efficient operation of the cockpit. This not to mention all the dependents of this various personalities who rely on them for their daily needs.



That's what happens only in the cockpit.



Equally important is the source of the cocks brought to the pit. These roosters are bred and to do it a farm is necessary and to maintain the same workers are needed to be hired. Employees in the **** farm range from 10 to a hundred depending on the size of the farm and its production. To maintain a good stock, the chicken should be fed well and to this date various feed products are formulated. In fact big companies have endeavored to produce these feeds and are now widely advertised in various radio and tv commercials. Aside from good food, they need the proper nutrition in terms of vitamins and and other products to supplements their diet so various pharmaceutical companies have also endeavored to formulate various medical products to address the need.



It is because of these activities that cockfighting has thrived in the Philippines. Betting is only one of its many aspects. To avoid this beautiful tradition from dissipating and to avoid its falling into the hand of the opportunists it should be aptly declared a national heritage. By regulating it we will be preserving one of the most deep rooted traditions in Philippine culture.
2010-03-22 01:56:36 UTC
No wonder this country is sinking. Have they nothing else better to do in Congress than talk of cockfighting ? There are more urgent matters that must be attended to than just cockfighting.



No, it should not be a part of our heritage. There is nothing commendable about it.
2014-10-09 13:38:30 UTC
There are 2 kinds of knives used in Philippine cockfighting. The single edge blade (use in derbies) and double edged blades.



All knives are attached on the left leg of the ****. But depending on the agreement between owners, blades can be attached on the right leg, or even on both legs.
Weekend Techie
2010-03-22 21:24:04 UTC
I don't agree with the lawmaker, whoever he is. Cockfighting is a form of animal cruelty. Besides, it's not really part of the culture; it's a foreign culture handed down to us.
don 1
2010-03-22 18:43:40 UTC
Yes. For years and years now cockfighting has been a part of our culture,so, it is but right that it be declared a part of our " intangible cultural heritage".
?
2010-03-22 17:53:12 UTC
I agree that cockfighting may be part of our national heritage because i am game fowl breeder an my past time. happiness and self fulfilment no other sports can equal to cockfighting.
dyunn2
2010-03-22 16:55:29 UTC
yes, if people say because it is gambling, what about boxing? people spend millions in boxing than in cockfighting. It is a tradition, a cultural link of what we as a society right now, way back 1800's, cockfighting is in paintings, poetry, music, etc. Cockfighting is also a way of life.
?
2010-03-22 10:46:48 UTC
Yes, its a matter of choice. If you dont want to be part of it just live with it.

Dont be a fool, Accept the fact that it is part of our tradition. We can enhance our legacy: its a statement that we Filipinos are not going to change our tradition just because cockfighting is illegal to other countries.



Facts: Poultry chickens are bred to eat, cockfighting chickens are bred to fight then eat later.

they both end up in the table, i wonder if those against sabong are vegetarians?

Poultry chicken lifespan 90days.

Fighting chickens lifespan is minimum 11 months and can reach up to 20 years if hes so good.



Sabungeros are doing their chicken a favor. who will care for them?, they help them avoid extinction
?
2010-03-22 06:37:54 UTC
I think Cockfighting is an inherent part of our culture. I am 56 years old, and since my childhood

years I always saw our old " Lolo " spending their precious time caring for his roosters. And I, too,

can not comprehend why I have roosters in my yard for almost 25 years now. An average of almost 3 years life span of my roosters. But I never bring them to the colisium to fight. I trained them everyday; give the best dietary foods and drugs for their maintenance; and sometimes let them spar and fight for training purposes. It gives me high to see them in proper conditions. And so it became an art to have a fighting **** in my yard. It reflects your valiant character and spirit to fight. That's one of the reason why Manny Pacquiao is so loved by Filipinos...he fights like a rooster...Hence, a big percentage of Filipino men have a rooster, even in the metropolis.Therefore, it should be a part of our national heritage.(many picture id's of filipinos in the poker game are all fighting cocks.)
Rafael C
2010-03-22 18:51:21 UTC
Mahjong and other forms of gambling are a popular, traditional, and customary form of recreation and entertainment among Filipinos, and this can be seen especially during "burols" and even on normal days.



Gambling in general should be part of our national heritage.



/sarcasm
?
2010-03-22 08:07:53 UTC
Sabong is barbaric, inhumane and a pathetic third world practice. As a Filipino, I believe it is one of the more shameful traditions that we should forgo if we are to move on as a global, sophisticated culture. Remember what Mahatma Gandhi said about how you can measure the nobility of a civilization :



"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."



It's the 21st century everyone. Sabong is cruel and tacky (yes, it's effin' jologs), it's gotta go.
international_jurist
2010-03-22 04:12:36 UTC
Buddha taught Ahimsa which means non-violence. Vaisnava (devotees of Vishnu) Hinduism also follows Ahimsa and is vegetarian. Suffering inflicted on another living being will return via the law of karma (As ye sow so shall ye reap). Is is a great pity Jesus and Mahomet did not preach kindness towards animals. Filipinos will improve their lot by adhering to world's best practice.
pinay
2010-03-22 02:50:01 UTC
No. Cockfighting should be aborted. This is illegal gambling and it's the cause of chaos when the **** loss or never win, the owner will get mad and so something wrong to the opponent.
?
2010-03-23 00:51:25 UTC
Yes i agree. I know that countries like USA, Brazil and other Europe ban the cockfighting, Mr. Plaza proposal is good in deed but it will have a problem with other group such as PETA. they don't like cockfighting, look those personalities in the cockfighting, these are good gentlemen in deed. cockfighting in our country is one who give income in our society no doubt about that. Yes
Weewee
2010-03-23 00:56:12 UTC
No. Because that heritage belongs only to Filipinos who love cockfighting. Many Filipinos do not want any involvement to such cruelty.
Buddy B
2010-03-22 22:44:41 UTC
Yes, I agree in the House Bill of Rep. Plaza, first and foremost cockfighting

was already existing way before the spaniards came to our country..

It became more popular up to this date because of the numerous

advantagets that can provide by joining in the derbies, breeding, making

feeds for gamefowls, accessories etc. and actually it provides income

to our poor farmers..

enough of this saying "that this cockfighting is an act of cruelty to the

animals" especially to the chickens., I have a question for those people who

keep on saying this., what do you think is more cruel from raising broiler

chickens which are not treated well at the beginning. They are being put on

the crowded cages, they are being fed by poor quality feeds, when they are

being transported to other location, they just put them on the small crates..

Pls. tell me what is more cruel than raising gamefowl,

In raising gamefowl, they are being treated well by giving quality feeds,

they are being nurtured starting from day old up to the pit, and they are

treated as warriors, and I gave my all respect for this animal..

They can enjoy their natural environment by putting on the ranging area

of your farm. Are these mentioned being applied to the broiler chickens?

hell no..



So enough this animal cruelty thing, ok..



I am favor for this House Bill, so, pls. make it happen..
?
2016-02-10 08:58:53 UTC
Cockfighting in the Philippines is called "Sabong". There are illegal and legal cockfights.
gari a
2010-03-22 03:41:56 UTC
I was born in a place where sabong is a way of life, not only by tambays but some respected people also. Its fairly a gentleman's game, (you can witness this behaviour if you go to even the smallest tupada managed by a local sponsor/ninong). It was introduced to us by the spanish conquistadores which later evolved and westernize to the effect of derby. the gambling side is all but optional, i mean you are free to raise and breed fighting cocks but has the option to sell or rent it out to afficionados. Brutal as some animal right groups claim but not as unforgiving as a matador battles a bull, or 2 horses simply biting and kicking each other out. It is a bloody hobby yes, but it has been with us, stayed with us and eventually became one of our tradition.
Papa Alpha Oscar
2010-03-22 00:17:57 UTC
to Filipinos who have never experienced living outside Metro Manila all their lives, they think cockfighting is a joke when it's a way of life in the provinces. has anyone ever seen "Ang Manok ni San Pedro" in the 80's? cockifghting is a part of our national heritage and that law is a mere recognition of it.



we don't have to conform to what other countries think because it's part of who we are as a nation.
★Spotter★
2010-03-21 23:14:56 UTC
There are many other things that may enhance national identity and preserve Filipino heritage but I totally disagree that cockfighting should be one of them. I firmly believe that we as a nation can rise beyond this barbaric lust to see animals get slaughtered just for our enjoyment or in the name of sport.



Cockfighting, just like fox hunting, seal hunting, horse fighting, & bull fighting may be a part of a country's history but should not be raised to the level of a national identity. For how does this senseless cruelty define us as a people?
BryanG
2010-03-22 01:35:05 UTC
Maybe Mr. Plaza was a CockFighting enthusiast... and he may be fond of seeing animals force to kill each other for their own entertainment. (and for the entertainment of their pockets.)



Heritage, is something you can be proud of... and I am not for CockFighting or any "sports" that is include to animals...
monti q
2010-03-22 14:55:44 UTC
isn't it already? i believe,once upon a time,it was considered the national sport of the philippines.Then again ,i vote yes that it be part of our heritage.Of course there are negatives like gambling and animal violence but there are,in my book anyway ,more of the positive.Here are some,It promotes HONOR and TRUST amongst each other.Where can you see complete strangers, via plain hand signals, wager between themselves, anything between the cost of a soda up to amounts staggering enough to purchase a house in the most affluent subdivision.These wagers are also settled immediately after each fight whether in cash or if previously agreed upon,in check or whatever negotiable instrument.With regard to it being violent,you must remember these are fighting roosters and their instinct and their being is to fight to death.These roosters if left alone,and unaided, will whack away at each other for hours end ,till one dies or cannot anymore,The sport by using the blades, end their misery ,anywhere from a few seconds or is stopped after 10mins has passed. we should also realize the other benefits, the sport, brings, like employment and income to millions of our countrymen who are either bet callers,gaffers,refs,trainers,feeders,breeders,cockpit staff and operators etc. and the income it also generates for the lgu,municipality,city,barangay where the derby or tupada is held.and most important of all, the ENTERTAINMENT it provides each and every afficionado in whatever sabungan regardless of what strata he may belong in society,now that is ... priceless....
Dano
2014-09-25 02:47:18 UTC
No, common sense says that human beings should not let animals needlessly suffer injury or death. Biblically speaking we are supposed to care for our animals. Yes, there are animal sacrifices in the Bible but only as a reminder of the awfulness of sin and it's high cost in the eyes of God. The highest calling of man is to love, not cruelly promote agonizing death where there is no need such as providing food.



Gambling is another issue, not encouraged Biblically. From my perspective I have seen people lives destroyed by gambling-homes lost marriages ended, people jailed for committing crimes to support their addiction.



Just because some practices go back for centuries does not mean they should continue. We no longer have gladiators who fight to the death and we no longer offer human sacrifices because our sense of right and wrong tell us it is not right. Of course if our conscience is seared then absolutely anything goes.
Alberto
2010-03-22 01:22:50 UTC
i would not want to be identified as a race of sabongeros. I know it is a big industry and is the source of livelihood for many filipinos but so is jueteng. after sabong would jueteng be next to be decared as part of the intangible Philippine cultural heritage.
dasher
2010-03-22 11:16:43 UTC
I think that this tradition should be band its still gambling to me and the country that introduced this also stop this carnage. Its a blood sport and its inhumane to fowls and animals whatever they used to get their gratification.I dont agree with this lawmaker and should not be part of our heritage its bad for our country image.
?
2010-03-22 07:36:27 UTC
no because cockfighting was introduced when the Spain colonize Philippines also Spanish wants money so they use rooster to fight & that's how cockfighting was introduce to Filipinos.
epoy
2010-03-22 02:09:38 UTC
i agree. cockfighting has been part of our history. these type of leisure to some and job to others has special part in our heritage. we should look on its bright side not on the bad one. cockfighting becoming bad when a person make it bad but if not, you can feel and see it as type of sport and fun.
_dreaming_of_better_world_
2010-03-22 19:47:49 UTC
Let's ban cockfighting and dog fighting in our country! I would never want my people and culture to be associated with a culture of illegal gambling, and animal brutality for human entertainment, too. That is embarrassing and that is inhumane. I think a chicken should never fight its fellow chicken to death. I think a dog should never fight its fellow dog to death.



Sa mga kababayan kong mahilig mag-sugal, narinig o nabasa mo na yung salitang "gambler's fallacy", "gambler's ruin", "problem gambling", "pathological gambling" o "gambling addiction"? Huwag niyo sanang aksayahin ang oras ninyo sa mga iligal na sugal at paglalaban ng mga alagang hayop.
Frederico V
2010-03-22 05:05:37 UTC
why not? as long as there are patrons of the cockfighting...and people promote it for the love of the game and not for other hideous activities, like drug dealing..Sabong is one of the favorite pastimes of Filipinos...To say it's stupid is ridiculous.Let's preserve our heritage. Mabuhay ang Pinoy!!!
2014-11-04 02:02:03 UTC
Equally important is the source of the cocks brought to the pit. These roosters are bred and to do it a farm is necessary and to maintain the same workers are needed to be hired. Employees in the **** farm range from 10 to a hundred depending on the size of the farm and its production. To maintain a good stock, the chicken should be fed well and to this date various feed products are formulated. In fact big companies have endeavored to produce these feeds and are now widely advertised in various radio and tv commercials. Aside from good food, they need the proper nutrition in terms of vitamins and and other products to supplements their diet so various pharmaceutical companies have also endeavored to formulate various medi
slash
2010-03-22 08:51:40 UTC
Yes and Y'not sa hindi nkaka intindi at mababaw ang mga utak ninyo sabong is a past time and income gainer and promotes the our own idea and heritage laid from our forefathers it's a vice!!!! who would not accept it. Pero kyong mga ENGX2//// sobra ninyong gus2ng pumunta sa LAS VEGAS anong meron don or CASINO FILIPINO sugal din nman yon san mag isip kyong mga wlang mga kwentang maiisip mababaw kayo.
Kinjiro Tatsuya -san
2010-03-22 01:28:14 UTC
No I don't think so that this be part of our national heritage. Technically speaking are we willing to teach our children another way of gambling? This is useless kind of recreation passed on to us by foreign occupancy on our country and should not be seen as our own culture.
?
2010-03-22 00:08:50 UTC
Yes,,Sabong is a traditional sports of filipinos since spanish time of Jose Rizal, it should recognize this as part of our cultural heritage that enhances the filipino identity.Sabong loves by so much filipinos in all over the country.
?
2010-03-21 22:06:59 UTC
Yes, cockfighting is a part of the history and heritage of the Philippines. However, this does not make it alright.



Female circumcision is part of the heritage and culture of some African nations. Human sacrifice is part of the heritage and culture of some South American groups. Child rape is part of the heritage and culture of some Islamic countries (as many children are married off at age 9).



Should we keep these traditions? No. Traditions which are cruel to animals and humans should be discontinued.
AMILO P
2010-03-24 22:56:46 UTC
A BIG BIG YES..........MY OLD FOLKS (MEN) GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER UP TO MY GENERATION HAS BEEN IN COCKFIGHTING. WE CONSIDER THIS AS A SPORT, NOT GAMBLING VENTURE. WE BET VERY MODERATELY AS WE ARE ONLY HAVING OUR DIVERSION THROUGH COCKFIGHTING. THIS IS ALREADY A TRADITION AND IT SHOULD BE PART OF OUR NATIONAL HERITAGE.
2014-09-03 19:57:45 UTC
All over the country, you will always witness filipinos spending times at the cockpit. The sport gives sabong affectionados the thrill of their lives. Like bull fighting in Spain, where bullfight affectionados shout in unison when the matador hits his target on the helpless bull, the filipinos also shout in unison when the fighting cocks slug it out in the ring.
hiddn
2010-03-22 17:01:47 UTC
Yes. To those who said that it should be stopped due to its gambling nature then we should also stop boxing, basketball, bowling, billiards, and many more types of sports that involves gambling with it. If you stop cockfighting you will render thousands of pinoys out of JOB.
Lizalinda V
2010-03-22 11:03:58 UTC
No, its still a form of gambling. The rich become richer and the poor become poorer. Its leisure for some, but for those jobless they take their chance to gamble and became the main source of their income w/c has no stability they will become addicted to this and tend to forget that there is no security in gamble of whatever kind. you will win less but more on the loss.
Sr.San Vicente
2010-03-22 04:51:25 UTC
Hello congressman,huwag mo nman idamay ang bayan natin sa pgkasabongero mo,ok lang sa iyo ksi mayaman ka at congressman pa,hindi naman sa Pilipinas na originate ang sabong ah,naghirap na nga ang mga pilipino,baka mauna pa ang pangpatuka sa manok kaysa bigas sa mesa,kaya't "NO TO COCKFIGHTING BE PART OF OUR NATIONAL HERITAGE",Bakit ba iyong ibang kababayan natin bomoto ng mga politikong kagaya nito,what a waste...
Lici
2010-03-22 04:08:39 UTC
That is brutality..i am absolutely against about that kind of what they said; Heritage. It cannot even counted as a game. May buhay sila na gaya natin at dapat lang irespeto din ang buhay nila. Wala na atang magandang magawa pa ang mga ibang kababayan.
manongsabungero
2010-03-22 05:32:18 UTC
totally agree with cockfighting being a national heritage.

it has been part of our ancestors' lives, our lives too.

it's a big industry. it feeds millions.



p.s.

humans are cruel to fellow humans too.

pit two fightingcocks and they would rather fight than eat. they would not stop until one is dead.
dagondagon
2010-03-22 03:05:59 UTC
yes!!!!!!! I definitely agree! it shall be part of our national heritage. I think theres's no other culture in the world whose customs and tradition is what we called sabong. sabong had been here since time immemorial, it is one of the past time by our forrfathers long before magellan and legaspi. Indeed, different regions in our country has different version of sabong before, just like adobo. one version of that is the "pataya" by our brother tausugs, yakans and samals in the south where thier fighting cooks wrestle to death without a razor sharp blades tucked in thier legs. that is why thier cocks are really big compared to cross breed and high breed fighting cocks in visayas and luzon. commonly those cocks are called jolohano.
ROUNDHEAD MAN
2010-03-22 02:37:45 UTC
absolutely yes,

it is already a part of Philippine history even when the Spaniards came. it also sets that all Pinoys are equal when it comes to the cockpit arena. no discrimination.

you will also test the credibility of the Pinoy because only signs of hands are being used.



gear up mga kasabong
Aref H4
2010-03-23 00:24:26 UTC
If the intent of the declaration is merely for recognition of the thousand upon thousand of handlers who put their life and limb at risk in the games releasing or capturing bladed cocks, I am for it.



However, if the declaration is merely to serve the purpose of special interest groups, for the sport to gain more government funding, it is a resounding NO.
Archie
2010-03-22 16:49:34 UTC
No, coz cockfighting now is associated with gambling. If not for the huge betting every **** fight, it can be considered
jonathan c
2010-03-22 22:56:40 UTC
Gawin na rin kaya ninyo National Heritage ang "HWETING", pati na rin ang pag-inom ng alak at pambabae, ano ba naman yan? Sugal gagawing National Heritage? Naku naman ha!!!!!!!!!! Tito ko at bayaw, na-bankrupt dahil sa cockfighting. Gusto ba ninyo ma-bankrupt din ang Pilipinas? Hoy gising!!!!!!!!!!
xtylizimo
2010-03-22 17:26:49 UTC
guys please don't be too blinded on what you only see and what you only knew... there is a alot besides 2 roosters killing each other. sabong is a Filipino heritage that must be preserved, sabong develops a huge industry to many Filipinos, sabong is a true gentlemens game... come to think of it, yes it is engaged in gambling, bkit ung karera ng kabayo legal, diba ang lotto sugal din, bkit my casino, mas malalaki p nga perang involved eh? and you can't considered this as cruelty to animals, roosters are created with an instinct to fight, in anyways or another mgpapatayan yang mga yan, have you seen how a breeder took good care of their roosters? if you considered this cruelty to animals why you guys are so fond in watching boxing, hindi ba mas cruel ito dahil tao ang pinagaaway nio? and yes sugal din ito at alam nio kung gano klaking pera ang involved d2, bkit yan legal at ni minsan di pinagbawal? and take note ang dami ng namatay jan and nasira ang katawn, hindi ba mas cruelty yan? one more thing, my nkita n ba kau n nagpatayan dahil sa sabong? nsa tao nman yan eh, kung ayaw mo then don't engaged to it! just my thought.. you think you know, but you have no idea...



PRO sabong, yes to this bill..
king k
2010-03-22 22:17:31 UTC
i do not agree with this lawmaker. how important is it to be declared as part of the "intangible Philippine cultural heritage" when it is already written in the hearts of filipinos- from one generation to another?.naging lawmaker ka pa!! magtanim ka na lang ng puno, makakatulong ka pa sa environment...
ETiPee
2010-03-22 01:00:17 UTC
No!



i was once asked by my colleague why is our favorite sport is cockfighting?(read in a newpaper) and also added, is that cockfighting is illegal like gambling? even though she's just asking not criticizing. but then i dunno what to answer because that's what i thought also about it.



it's such ashamed if they count it as a national heritage. (own opinion)
bogs
2010-03-21 22:48:53 UTC
NO! I don't with cockfighting to be a part of our country as national heritage. Reason? simply because it is a form of gambling that could and can be a source of crime due to money speaks. if you wanna play, you must have a money, and if your addicted, its a big problem specially to the poor like me. some persons involved crime only to produce money for their bad leisure.
bh0ngg
2010-03-22 18:15:13 UTC
dumating si kastila may bitbit na manok panabong (rooster), ipinakilala/itinuro sa mga ninunong Pinoy ang tungkol sa pagsasabong (cockfighting).



lumaganap sa buong bansa paglipas ng ilang mga henerasyon. hanggang ngayon kinikilala ang sabong sa Pilipinas na isa sa mga tradisyong Pilipino na sugal at libangan ng mga kalalakihan at ng ibang mga kababaihan.



ang mga manok panabong ay may natural character na kapag napadikit sa katulad na manok ay nagaaway(nagsasabong).



illegal sa ibang bansa ang cockfighting dahil hindi nman nila ito naging tradisyon. wag tayong maging gaya-gaya! igalang ang tradisyong Pinoy!



hindi ako sabungero pero ayokong maputol ang isang national sport na nakagisnan ko sa aking bayan.



COCKFIGHTING IS "ALREADY" A PART OF OUR NATIONAL HERITAGE since then.
master unniko
2010-03-22 22:34:23 UTC
i do agree with Rep. Rodolfo Plaza because even before sabong already exists and our ancestors used it as a form of recreation and entertainment, irregardless of the laws in us, brazil and europe. we dont share the same tradition and we are not a part of their country and their rules. we dont need to live according to their rule because we have our own, in this case its our national heritage that were talking about we dont need to compare ourselves with those countries.
Cranium Basher
2010-03-22 20:35:08 UTC
Yes, I do If it is illegal in their country in the Philippines it is part of our cultural heritage.
Manny
2010-03-22 03:12:12 UTC
Yes i agree! this is a sport where there is honor and integrity. its been there for quite a long time and still getting more popular. before its just a sport but now its an industry
Sos Daredevils
2010-03-24 09:07:02 UTC
Yes, so rich Chinoy/Pinoy high rollers dont have to go somewhere else to have a goodtime... Win-Win for Filipinos as Foreigners come in too. Its about time & Meat is a Meat any how you prepare it!
2010-03-21 22:53:35 UTC
No, "**** fighting" did not start in the Philippines. It is just a past time event to gamble at the expense of animals just like dog fighting.

I would not be proud of it as being part of my heritage.
?
2010-03-22 00:12:39 UTC
hahaha..this is a joke.are you kidding me Mr. Plaza?If it is intangible Philippine cultural heritage then

we must break that culture.It is a waste of time for a debate of that bills.Instead make a law that is more beneficial to our country.Why you didn't make a law that punishes the corrupt government official/government employee into death without mercy?Why the anti-dynasty bill is still pending?Spend

your time in more relevant issues.
Super Jing
2010-03-22 22:03:47 UTC
NEVER. It's against animal rights. And **** fighting is NOT in any sense a Philippine cultural heritage. It's bullshit..
Kevin C
2010-03-22 16:58:18 UTC
No, as some people said already. looking at some popular hobbies of other countries. no animal is hurt. just leave it as a hobby for Filipinos.
manokpaul
2010-03-22 01:58:52 UTC
in my own opinion , yes it should be a part of our national heritage , our great great grand parents already have this kind of sports since the day they were born , di pa nga tayo ipinanganak , may roon na ang sabong , di lang sa pilipinas kundi sa ibang bansa pa
?
2010-03-23 00:33:48 UTC
From our ancestors sabong is heritage it is the identity that you are filipino people with rich culture. I am a Breeder of gamefowls so this Sabong should not be stopped since if this is stop the rich culture and identity of Filipino people will disappeared.
?
2010-03-22 07:31:33 UTC
Pwede ba........wala na ba talagang maisip na magagawa ang mga mangbabatas...sira na nga ang reputation ng gobyerno dahil sa mga kurakot...tapos ganun pa...daming tao nag hihirap sa sabong...at ang yumayaman ay yung talagang mayaman..."what a waste of filipino money if this kind of thinking will be considered"...Please do something good for us, ...Nakakahiya............
cocker / breeder from antipolo
2010-03-22 16:31:37 UTC
I think, YES...to recognized the cockfighting as national filipino heritage..dapat noon pa para dadami pa ang hihilig jan at dadami pa ang arena.....hehhehe...pu syam!!!!!!!!! sa wala.......sa meron!!!!!!!!
mandoy
2010-03-22 10:41:35 UTC
capital Y E S ! remember sa PINAS lahat ng lungsod lalo na syudad kung may simbahan mayron ding sabungan, kung puno man ang simbahan every mass ganun din ang sabungan kung may tupada, mabuti pa nga ang sabungan nagbabayad ng buwis ang simbahan exempted. DAPAT LANG na ma recognized ang sabong na national heritage kasi totoo naman yun nasa dugo na ng pinoy ang sabong. One more thing, hindi nyu mapipigilan yan kasi most of politicians are SABUNGERO. sulong sabungero....!!!! inilog! lugro sais dyes para sa Y E S
2010-03-22 02:41:08 UTC
Rep. Rodolfo Plaza uunahin nyo pa yang sabong ang dapat nyong gawing batas ay NATIONAL ID SYSTEM to give our country security and stability para dadami ang dayuhang mamuhunan sa bansa natin at dadami ang trabaho na marangal.Bakit ba kayong mga nakaupo dyan sa congresso pangsarili nyo lang ang iniisip nyo dapat naman sana ang bansa natin at si juan dela cruz ang iisipin nyo.Palagay na natin uunahin mo ang sabong,dadami ngayon ang mga sugarol anu ang papakain nila sa pamilya nila lalo na pag natalo cgurado dadami ang karahasan sa bayan ni juan.hayyyyy kayong mga nakaupo dyan sa congresso palibhasa`y mga mayayaman kayo kaya uunahin nyo pa ang mga hobbies nyo.
?
2010-03-21 23:55:24 UTC
Yeah of course... Sabong is part of every macho Filipino, sometimes ladies also.



Sabong is more popular than boxing of any other sports in the Philippines.
2010-03-22 02:34:08 UTC
Nakakatawa naman itong topic na ito hehehe,para sa akin pabor ako kc nga panahon pa ng kastila may sabong na,yung mga ibang kanununuan natin alam na ang sabong,kaya para sa akin ok lang,,dun nman sa di sumasang ayon ok lang yan kc opinyon nyo yan,at dun naman sa nagsasabing cruelty of animal ang sabong para mawala ang sabong pagbatiin nila yung manok panabong para di mag away at sa gayon mawawala na ang sabong hehehe,tama po ba..yun lang po ay opinyon ko lang hehehe...mabuhay ang mga sabungero!!!!!!
2010-03-23 00:12:47 UTC
Yes, why not! as a matter of fact Sabong is everywhere in our country. We can't deny that sabong is one of the favorite sports of our country men. So legalise it!
pilo
2010-03-23 01:36:55 UTC
its a big no!!!! to those have big farms and a lot of money to use for this vices only maybe. but not all filipino will agree.. im not agree that sabong will be our coltural heritage..
2010-03-23 03:29:57 UTC
Para sa akin, hindi. Kahit pano ko tingnan sa kahit anong anggulo, isa pa rin yang sugal na namana natin sa ating mga ninuno. Para sa akin, hindi ko masabing isang "cultural heritage" ang sabong. Tutal, hindi nmn lahat ng Pilipino ay sumasali sa sabungan. Tatay ko, lolo ko, kuya ko at hindi lahat ng nuno ko ay sumasali dyan (kahit kami ay taga probinsya). Pero kung iisipin, madami ngang pintor at manunulat ang gumagamit ng konseptong iyan. Siguro dahil madaming storya na nakapalibot sa sabong katulad ng ginawa ni Amado V. Hernandez. (Tama nga ba?...Sa kuwento nya, nadisgrasya ang nagsasabong dun... d lng ako sure). Kung magiging cultural heritage yan, maipagmamalaki kaya? hmmm. Ano kayang klaseng "identity" ang ipapakita ng sabong.



Pero ok din isama sa history, opinyon ko lng nmn. Magandang usapin ito.
nel
2010-03-22 01:28:20 UTC
tanggalin na lang yung tari.gamitin na lan yung gloves tutal pag sinawaan sigurado isa sa mga manok tatakbo o di kaya titigil.baka may makita pa tayong pacman na manok.in this cornerrrrrr..wearing talisain feathers.....di nawala ang slavery sa pinas parekoy nag-evolve lang.isama na rin ni atty yung jueteng sa heritage na sinasabi nya,alcoholism,pambabae,para

kumpleto.
?
2010-03-22 23:14:20 UTC
no. it is practiced only by few gamblers, some are members of the elite families. it should even be declared illegal. many people got bankrupt because they bet heavily on this game, others become robbers to sustain their vices.
trepur
2010-03-22 20:10:25 UTC
yes of course it should be a part of our heritage,it not just for gambling,its a gentleman's sport and

every cocker is a honest person!it is also a part of our history.
2010-03-21 22:44:33 UTC
Cockfighting although Legal is still gambling and immoral.
VENERANDO R
2010-03-23 00:14:00 UTC
yes, dapat lang, pero dapat ang phil gamesfowl commission mag set ng common standard betting sa lahat ng sabungan sa Pilipinas.
?
2010-03-23 04:15:29 UTC
cockfighting is a long long time tradition it also generates job and livelihood so why not...
Gil
2010-03-22 00:27:11 UTC
No..cockfigthing engage into money..many Filipino mens are addicted with this games.
claude15
2010-03-22 17:51:45 UTC
yes! its a tradition whether it will kill the animal its a tradition if the owner of the animal don't want there chicken to die then they should not let theme fight. in the first place its a fight...
James0830
2010-03-21 22:31:37 UTC
Yes, it should be a part of our national heritage because since time immemorial, cockfighting is always there. It had been the object of many paintings of our famous artist, an important feature in many fiestas (even sponsored by town or city officials), it had been printed in many books and other documentaries. It had been a past time of our forefathers and even our young ones.
jimmy
2010-03-22 03:22:27 UTC
All I can say to all of you stupid out there, stop talking and discussing this topic.a lot of stupid will be interested to this issue and make it a big think.



Let us just enjoy sabong and forget your illussions that you will have many votes this coming election.

for this one.



FORGET IT !!!!!!!!!!!
?
2010-03-22 19:08:43 UTC
if u think ur blood s craving for such a game why not? we r born on this planet so dis matters most for us......r u an alien?... be back 2 ur space!!!
M2 GAFFING LESSONS 09228986430
2010-03-22 18:15:05 UTC
I BECAME A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT BECAUSE OF SABONG. MY FATHER WORKS AS A GAFFER (KNIFE TYING)



MORE THAN PART OF THE FILIPINO HERITAGE.

MANY FILIPINOS BELOW POVERTY LINE RELY ON SABONG FOR A LIVING,

AS GAFFERS, FEEDERS, HANDLERS, SENTENCIADORS, GATE KEEPERS, KASADOR, KRISTOS.



LET US ALL BE CONSIDERATE. YOU WILL KILL US.



CONTACT 09162317767 FOR YOUR GAFFING LESSONS

MANA MANA KNIFE TYING CLINIC.
jair0
2010-03-22 08:17:54 UTC
yes yes yes! bakit hindi? bakit natin ipagkakait ang isang bagay na likas sa mga pilipino? hindi ba't pagiging 'anti-pinoy' yun?
matik
2010-03-22 05:13:36 UTC
yes totally i agree 100%, for those who doesn't understand the sport yet better read and read and understand this sports
2010-03-22 05:40:25 UTC
YES. GALING NI CONGRESSMAN. ISAMA NYO NA RIN ANG PROSTITUTION. MATAGAL NA DIN SA PILIPINAS ITO SINCE THE SPANISH TIMES PA.
?
2010-03-22 00:48:12 UTC
Why not? we eat them anyway. I'll change my opinion when chickens become an endangered species.
?
2010-03-22 04:47:35 UTC
yes... filipinos are gamblers and cockfigthing is part of our culture our ancestors made it their past time
Tony
2010-03-22 02:56:54 UTC
No‼‼ Have you seen one? The cruelty and the bestiality. It is sad that so many are buying these lies.
kenworth ed p
2010-03-23 02:06:14 UTC
vote for erap..all forms of gambling will be part of our heritage.......our nation is dying...
?
2010-03-23 01:23:23 UTC
NO, BECAUSE COCKFIGHTING IS A GAMBLING.
Sylvester
2010-03-22 19:15:17 UTC
Nope, should not be. It's another form of gambling.
2010-03-22 03:12:56 UTC
yes
boyplakwatsa.com
2010-03-21 23:16:01 UTC
Yes, only on the condition that jueteng and tong-its will also be included.
?
2010-03-22 07:50:42 UTC
yes i very much agree and all has been very much said beautifully with law.
Rick
2010-03-21 22:00:46 UTC
No, it should die out with the past, like slavery in this country.
2010-03-22 11:20:29 UTC
NO!



It's animal cruelty please.....



We have Big HEARTS right?
den
2010-03-23 03:36:47 UTC
it could be but not involving gambling in it, purely recreation and entertainment...
2010-03-23 02:05:41 UTC
yes! i agree.but we need to control our self,that its only a pleasure and not a GAMBLING.
John Sabong
2010-03-22 15:14:32 UTC
yes, it keeps the filipinos united......
2010-03-22 00:46:41 UTC
yes because its really true and it generates lots of jobs and funds for the gov't.
?
2010-03-22 16:13:29 UTC
absolutely NO! that lawyer is gambler perhaps.
Pabs
2010-03-22 19:54:21 UTC
i agree
2010-03-22 04:08:37 UTC
nope... i dont get any moral and useful knowledge from **** fighting...
jhonzy guardian 2006 camelot
2010-03-22 05:19:20 UTC
definitely yes....
tatzzz
2010-03-22 20:49:07 UTC
ok lng

sabong is good and exciting....
?
2010-03-22 15:09:24 UTC
NOOOOOOOO.....

This is GAMBLING. DO YOU UNDERSTAND CONGRESSMEN?
?
2010-03-23 02:50:21 UTC
yes... i agree
intuganBC
2010-03-22 07:22:53 UTC
should be legal..
?
2010-03-22 13:13:24 UTC
yes....
Drew
2010-03-23 04:02:49 UTC
NO!!!


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