Question:
Are you in favor of the MMDA's proposal to revive the odd-even scheme to reduce Metro Manila traffic?
Jonas
2010-10-13 03:20:02 UTC
Becuase of the heavy traffic on EDSA that has become a daily problem the Metro Manila Development Authority (MMDA) is proposing to revive the Odd-Even Vehicular Volume Reduction Program for the entire stretch of EDSA.

The odd-even scheme will replace the the Unified Vehicular Volume Reduction Program (UVVRP) or number coding scheme for the entire stretch of EDSA only, the number coding scheme will still be in effect outside this area.

The proposal also will cover all types of privately-owned vehicles and city/provincial buses.

According to the MMDA, by implementing this they expect to reduce the volume of vehicles in EDSA by around 40 percent. They also said that by doing this, people will be more productive, there will be less carbon emissions, which will lead to a less stressful daily life in Metro Manila.

Do you agree with the MMDA? Do you think this is the best solution to solve EDSA and Metro Manila traffic, or do you think this will only make things worse for people driving and commuting along EDSA and within Metro Manila? Share to the community your views now.
185 answers:
winn b
2010-10-13 08:45:22 UTC
MMDA IS INEPT IN ENFORCING TRAFFIC RULES. THEY HAVE NO COMMON SENSE.

NO!!! we dont need THE number coding in any form.YOUR IDEAS SUCKS!!!

The new MMDA SHOULD WAKE UP !!THE PROBLEM IS SIMPLE,.SOLUTION IS SIMPLE..

what we need in this country is enforcement of rules regulations and laws.

not more schemes.

*remove illegal terminals of jeepneys which clogged the streets.TRY MONUMENTO,QUEZON AVE. ,munoz, trinoma sm north and other places where jeepneys occupy most of the lanes

*u turn slots should have barricades to prevent vehicles from crossing numerous lanes immediately after a u turn.

*designate a loading and unloading zone.IN ALL AREAS. BUSES AND JEEPNEYS LOAD EVERYWHERE EVEN IN CENTER LANE.

*do not put the PNP on enforcing traffic rules,they only do it for KOTONG PURPOSES.

*REMOVE KULIGLIGS,TRICYCLES,PEDICABS FROM MAJOR STREETS AND HIGHWAYS.

*KULIGLIGS ARE NOT REGISTERED AND THE DRIVERS ARE NOT REQUIRED LICENSES.THEY ARE THE WORST VIOLATORS OF COUNTERFLOW.

*TOW ALL THOSE WHO PARKED ILLEGALLY.

*BLOCK CENTER OF HIGHWAYS TO PREVENT PEDESTRIANS WHO ARE LAZY AND DUMB FROM CROSSING MAJOR THOROUGHFARES SPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING.TOLENTINO NEED TO TAKE A CAR TRIOP FROM MONUMENTO TO BACLARAN ON EDSA SO HE CAN EXPERIENCE THE DELAY.HE WILL NOTICE ALL THE THINGS THAT MAKES TRAFFIC WORSE. .

*FIX THE ROADS

*ENFORCEMENT IS THE ANSWER NOT FAILED IDEAS TO INCONVENIENCE THE PUBLIC.

*FENDER BENDERS AND BROKEN DOWN VEHICLES MUST BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY.

*DO NOT SWEEP ALONG EDSA DURING RUSH HOUR. YES MMDA DOES IT DURING RUSH HOUR.

ARM MMDA ENFORCERS WITH TICKETS NOT WHISTLES AND JUST WAVING TRAFFIC BY



ALL COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS WHICH THE MMDA DOES NOT HAVE.
Francis
2010-10-14 02:32:52 UTC
Im not in favor of the MMDA's proposal to revive the odd-even scheme. every major cities in the world have this traffic problem. But have you noticed how many buses that we see in EDSA? have you noticed buses in other major cities in the world? Why don't we lessen the colorum buses and eliminate them once and for all. Or maybe let the government owned the bus companies. have a fare share of percentage in income. So that buses will have this uniform basis and comply to the rule of law (its up to the congress to create a law for this). Private vehicles will always use EDSA, one way or the other if this odd-even scheme will be implemented, side streets will cause a lot of damage to the roads and heavy traffic will be in side streets, avenues, or alternate routes. Damages will cause increase budget, increase due to the maintenance of the roads and for cars also. In addition, traffic also causes bumpy roads. Another thing is, why cant we have a road widening of EDSA if it's possible. A very good example of good traffic scheme is Singapore. A small country, limited buses, great commuting scheme, good roads and a lot more. Hopefully MMDA should turn on their minds for a long term purpose or goals not just as a for a good impression that will only last for a year or two. We are so left behind already...
kakashi
2010-10-13 18:45:20 UTC
No. UVVRP and Odd-Even Scheme is only a band-aid solution. It's a quick fix and doesn't solve the problem. Does MMDA think-tanks doesn't have a bright and permanent solution at all?



1. Remove the Colorum Buses.

2. Remove the Illegal and Legal Terminals, Fences in EDSA.

3. Terminal and waiting lane shouldn't be within the EDSA road.

4. Don't issue anymore franchise if were not going to build more roads!

5. Regardless whether the automotive is powered by gas, diesel or lpg. The older the engine is, the

lesser its fuel efficiency is.

6. Put more business outside Metro Manila.. Put more government office outside Metro Manila.



Metro Manila is a very densely populated area. We can't do anything about it. If we put more jobs

and business outside Metro Manila and invest more on tourism then people may have less reason to go in MM. There should be a Urban Planning. Hope this helps.
Android
2010-10-13 10:09:35 UTC
The problem is that they "predict" to reduce vehicular volume by 40 per cent.



A less stressful life in the big city is a completely different thing.



Easing the traffic at EDSA, a greener city, and having a smiling populace all at the same time is more than just playing with numbers and reducing vehicular volume.



On one hand, because of Metro Manila's own fault, there are people coming from all over the country and they need to be somewhere. People cannot help it when they come to Manila to trade, work, study, and transact business with government offices. So they buy cars or ride buses. Every year, this is increasing. What's not increasing are the roads. There should have been a more dynamic city planning system and that maybe they should have heeded the words of urban planners.



There was talk before that provincial buses were not to be allowed anymore in Metro Manila.



I don't think there's no solving the problem of the number of cars and buses along EDSA except probably constructing more roads, something like secondary roads but along EDSA. This seems to be a logical step because Manila has grown since the early 1900s but the physical systems and utilities in place for a growing city were never implemented.



Another way is decentralization through a workable federal system of government. For example, a province in northern Luzon has two power plants and is strategically located facing the South China Sea. Construct international air and sea ports and you have decongested Metro Manila. I think the full potential of Subic and Clark are still to be realized. You can forget about SCTEx-like projects and extending the NLEx to up north. In the east facing the Pacific Ocean, a father and son political tandem is building their province to be an international shipping center. There are more of these exciting opportunities if people in power just take a long hard look at the big picture. If there are attractions elsewhere that are good enough, people may stop coming to Metro Manila.These are enormous undertakings but in time they will be realized.
Something
2010-10-13 05:37:39 UTC
I agree with the intentions behind the rationale of the MMDA. However, I'm on the fence with th UVVRP scheme.

Since the UVVRP will be applied IN EDSA, logic tells me that carbon emissions will lessen IN EDSA, sure. But won't it also create more traffic in other areas? You're just moving the cars to other locations. Doubtful that you're actually reducing the number of cars even with the Number Coding scheme.

Despite my suspicions, I support the fact that the MMDA is actually finding new ways to better our transport system and not simply painting our streets in baby blue/pink or green.

Let's hope by decreasing the number of cars on the road, people will be encouraged to create a commuting culture; not only for the masses but also for those who are in high places on the social hierarchy.
lezah
2010-10-13 03:54:44 UTC
I hardly ever take buses or use a car along Edsa, not during rush hours anyway. Doesn't make sense to spend so many hours in frustration and inhaling all the carbon monoxide. I use the MRT. It's more reliable, time-wise. The less time I spend on Edsa, the better.
eva_martinez14344
2010-10-13 23:58:56 UTC
i agree but i think it should only implement to PUB and PUJ.. because they are cause of heavy traffic.. buses are over populated along edsa since the MRT and LRT are created..
KiX
2010-10-13 23:37:08 UTC
nope. Not in favor. You're just diverting the traffic to other streets.. smaller and narrower streets.. just impound the colorum buses and taxis,,, teach your traffic enforcers to help drivers and not just be there to catch traffic violators.. they just stand there and wait for somebody to make a mistake,,sometimes they are like Ninjas who hide behind street lamps and trees and pounce on you when u make a mistake,, and just be more strict with emission testing, that is if the MMDA is really pro environment. peace.
FRANCIS
2010-10-13 11:08:56 UTC
If you want to reduce CARBON EMISSIONS, eh 'di unahin niyo munang tanggalin ang mga mauusok na bus! Lagi niyo na lang kinakawawa ang mga middle-class na nagsusumikap para mai-ahon sa kahirapan ang ating bansa. 'Yang mga bus sa EDSA naman talaga ang napapahirap diyan sa daan ng EDSA eh.



Huhulihin nga ng MMDA kapag smoke-belching, pero pagkakuha ng plaka, ayun tumatakbo pa rin ulit sa EDSA na parang hari ng kalsada! Ang dapat diyan, i-tow agad at huwag na hayaang bumiyahe. 'Yan naman talaga ang main cause of traffic sa EDSA, ang mga bus! Kaya bawasan niyo na sila.



Tutal may MRT naman, isipin mo kung lahat na lang mag-MRT, eh di mapapaganda pa nila ang MRT ngayon kasi lahat ng kita sa MRT na mapupunta. Ang hirap sa Pilipinas eh, ayaw talagang pag-isipan ang lahat ng bagay, puro trial & error ang systema natin.
Mikey
2010-10-13 09:13:38 UTC
I strongly disagree with the MMDA on this one. The scheme does not address the root cause of the problem which is the excess number of buses running the EDSA route. Anyone who passes EDSA can tell you that the problem stems from undisciplined buses occupying 3 lanes whenever they stop to load and unload. The excess number of buses on EDSA as evidenced by a recent study indicating 100% more than the road's bus capacity also compounds the problem. Implementing the scheme will only draw the ire of the majority of the people living in and around Metro Manila but will not solve the problem. It will also adversely affect many businesses in the area. I suppose the MMDA Chairman will not be affected by the scheme since he probably owns more than one car but he should take into consideration the welfare of the rest of the people of Metro Manila. USE YOUR HEAD CHAIRMAN! It's there for a reason. Unless his primary goal is to erode the support for the current president, he should rethink his plan.
Jay
2010-10-13 05:46:48 UTC
People will just stay away from edsa but for sure will still drive to work. If edsa is the shortest route from their place to makati or wherever them travelling through a different longer and most probably congested path also will just increase the carbon emission so please stop telling us about your false concern about nature. Apprehend illegal buses everywhere. Improve mass transport all the way to laguna,rizal,cavite and bulacan to decongest manila in effect you are also going to make the nearby provinces accesible and be able to promote them as tourist spots a few minutes from our airports.
-wattermarkz-
2010-10-13 19:21:52 UTC
I Disagree. Maybe EDSA will have less vehicles passing by, however, that is the only problem that will be solved on probably 1 week only. As a frequent passer of EDSA, every single day as we use UVVRP, almost every single Public and Private vehicles contributes pollution, you are only using "odd-even scheme" along EDSA, it doesn't mean the pollution will not reach our atmosphere which is by the way the most affected entity of the whole carbon dioxide thing. Commuters force there way to be a winner and ride a jeepney or a bus or a taxi cab. If the Private cars will be lessen, All those using it and can not afford to buy a new car as an alternative will be a commuter too which will be an added burden to all those people who are already commuting. All those who can afford to buy a new vehicle will do purchase a new one, and rest assured not all will buy a brand new unit. most of them will buy second hand cars that will surely populate the streets again and contribute more pollution. I am also sure street crimes will increase too. it's a big opportunity for this guys since the streets will be over crowded with people.



I suggest, Developing new main roads "NOW." An over pass for vehicles over EDSA, SHAW, OSMEñA and C5 and other major roads in Metro Manila. Put a Bike lane, motorcycle lane and don't make the left side road of edsa as a stop for bus and jeepney, make a bus stop or public stop on its sides to lessen bottle necks. This will definitely stop the large population of EDSA and other major roads in Metro Manila. Add new line of MRT and LRT. This will lessen the Pollution since it is using electricity. I don't believe we do not have the budget, Pnoy can work on that i am sure. Refresh the LTO staff, most of there employees are accepting something personal in return for the sake of the registration of a provate or public vehicle and also for providing licenses to aspiring drivers who only knew how to pump the gas but doesn't know and doesn't follow any rules. Act also on the population of people. most of them working in Manila are not entirely from Manila, almost all of them are coming from Cavite, Laguna, Rizal and Bulacan which do use cars. Rehabilitate the PNR, Put an MRT or LRT on the shore of Laguna de Bay and Manila Bay, this will lessen the car that will be used. Why can't we learn from Japan, Hong Kong, Canada, and UK who are all known to have Subways. Ever since I was a kid I see this news about the subways parallel to the headline news that EDSA is Experienceing heavy traffic. -wattermarkz-
smash-o-san
2010-10-13 17:54:36 UTC
I'm not in favor of this, because of quite a few reasons:



1. Their goal is to reduce the number of vehicles on EDSA which would increase the number of people using public transport. I don't see this succeeding because our public transport system does little to address a growing commuting population. The MRT for one, is already over capacity. Especially during rush hour, add that to the irregularity in the departure/arrival of trains at each station. PUVs on the other hand, suffer the same fate, compounded with the fact that quite a few of them are poorly maintained and suffer breakdowns often.



2. If they aim to reduce pollution along EDSA, it might help a bit, but it won't address the root cause of the problem. Since the smoke belchers would still run along the streets (albeit on less days) but that doesn't change the fact that they are still smoke belchers.



In my opinion, a better solution would be to crack down on smoke belchers and poorly maintained vehicles (both private and public) and colorum vehicles, fix the roads and improve public transport options (jeepneys, buses and trains in particular) and redesign the traffic routing within Metro Manila (proper organization of the one-way roads, etc can do more in helping with transportation woes than just attempting to reduce the number of vehicles).



Aside from what the MMDA has to do (which lies more on a policy level) the general public also has to do something. The MMDA or any other agency should not have to be the ones to discipline motorists (and pedestrians). If you're old enough to drive, you should be old enough to be disciplined. One shouldn't run red lights just because there isn't traffic on the other lane and there isn't an enforcer on the street. And just because the road is one-way doesn't mean you shouldn't signal when you turn. It's dangerous, and if the person gets used to things like that, then more traffic-disrupting habits can develop.
Krissy
2010-10-13 13:50:02 UTC
It's not really a problem if..



1. We have an efficient public transportation system

2. It is generally safe to commute

3. There is proper commuter etiquette (like offering seats to the elderly and women)



And..



Is it really only the private vehicles causing traffic and emissions? Personally, on my way to work, in the magallanes area, buses blocking the roads are on of the main cause of traffic. I cannot say for other areas but as far as I know in the Cubao are it is always the same.



Are we really addressing the problem or is this another band-aid solution. This is really a half hearted and half baked solution.



First, there needs to be discipline in all drivers private and public (especially those big transportation drivers). Second, this odd, even scheme will reduce public and private transportation but would not reduce the number of people going to work. What are they going to do about that. It would not only cause a hard time for commuters to get to and from where ever they are going but it would also lead to more crimes. Unless they also provide efficient security.



Who are we kidding? There was a reason the odd even scheme did not last. I think they should first find out the real problem and address it long term. It might be inconvenient a first but should we sacrifice comfort over a better society?



“A problem well stated is a problem half solved”

Charles F. Kettering quotes
Papa Alpha Oscar
2010-10-13 06:54:08 UTC
i think i've said this before... who ever ran the MMDA from the 90's onwards and came up with those traffic schemes in the first place were stupid. they have failed to understand that it is a necessity in Metro Manila to have a vehicle because public works and transportation have never been efficient. the mere existence and mandate of the MMDA is a clear example that government agencies don't see the bigger picture.



no amount of scheming will reduce Metro Manila traffic. all i had to do when the UVVRP came into effect was to use another vehicle since our family's cars have been registered in such a way where no two ending plate numbers are the same. i even knew people who borrowed other people's cars just so that they can go from point A to B on days when their car is "coding". do these idiot decision makers honestly think that an odd-even scheme on EDSA will change things?



not only will that piss off provincial vehicle owners who don't give a damn about Metro Manila, that will definitely burden Metro Manila residents who only know how to go from North to South (and vice versa) via EDSA. what will make people more productive, emit less carbon, and be less stressful is if the service roads on the highways became one-way roads (like every other progressive country)... if we just did away with those jeepneys (since waiting sheds are useless and buses have done their part much better)... and if the MRT and LRT both won't sacrifice safety and affordability.
?
2010-10-13 05:55:37 UTC
The problem is not the of cars that go along EDSA. Implementing an odd even scheme will just make it harder for people to go around.



The problem is the buses, it always has been and it always will be until someone does something about it.



Look at how they pile up and wait for passengers. There is no organization or discipline in the way they drive as well. Bus drivers here can do better than Vin Diesel in fast and the Furious.



Apart from that, there are just too many buses, too many bus companies, and too little laws that are strict on enforcing road rules in EDSA.
Ricardo
2010-10-13 19:29:11 UTC
Okay, i would agree but what is the long term solution? Of course this is a common sense and kindergarten solution..Too many vehicles in Edsa, so by reducing you solve the problem. Nice, but for how long? If no long term plan and this is permanent, this is a crazy solution. It would be easy for the people to understand and agree if the final solution is also brought up.People can sacrifice if they know this is for something better.If none you will get all the complaints.

One of the problems of EDSA is too many buses and worst is it's not anymore fully occupied because of the MRT. Problem is all of these buses stop in all bus stops creating bottle necks and hindering traffic.In other countries, buses stops in their designated stops only. This is the numbered bus and stops system.This will reduce clogging in all bus stops.This was brought up before by an MMDA Chairman but there was no political will with all the complaints since passengers would want to use any bus stopping in any bus stop. I think this is a good idea and it's time people also change and not only those using vehicles.
Jee
2010-10-14 01:46:54 UTC
Before i comment, may i just correct that the odd-even scheme will not replace the number coding scheme, rather be an addition to MMDA's dire attempt to unclog traffic in the Metro.

I vehemently abhor this new MMDA proposal!

I suggest they first find solutions on improving the PUVs roaming around the city, specifically EDSA and Commowealth Ave. I pity the daily commuters, who have no choice or capacity to purchase their own cars. Imagine their patience with those, uneducated (meaning no formal driving training) drivers, who does not understand that they should practice EXTRAORDINARY DILIGENCE, in transporting thier passengers, unsanitary bus seats and worse unsecured feeling that the bus may be robbed or worse hijacked! When the new administration started, I noticed that the traffic in EDSA improved a lot because, MMDA was directed to control the "colorum" buses to traverse EDSA, MMDA should continue to do this and there would be no need for other schemes to improve the traffic.
?
2010-10-13 21:02:09 UTC
It is not about reducing the volume but eliminating vehicles that SHOULD NOT be cruising along EDSA per se.



You have traffic jams all over Manila, not just EDSA, caused by bottlenecks which are caused by unruly drivers and illegal public utility vehicles such as unregistered buses without approved franchises. Remove these buses and drivers and believe you me... the traffic jam problem will be solved. Forget the old VVRP scheme. It is outdated and in-affective.



It is funny that the MMDA (Metro Manila Disaster-causing Authority) would come up with a solution that does not address the problem but instead cover up that particular problem. It is like curing the flu by giving the patient cold medicine. You cure the flu with a flu medicine... that is it. Simple and straight to the point.
Ramon A
2010-10-13 19:14:02 UTC
i do not think the odd-even scheme would work.. as it is, the number coding is already a big help in reducing the number of cars on the road. my question is, WHY DONT THEY LOOK AT THE DISCIPLINE OF THE BUS DRIVERS first. if you travel EDSA weekdays and weekends daily, you will see that most of the traffic problems start and end with the DISCIPLINE of the BUS DRIVERS. here are things we see daily:

1) buses with A and B codes should stay within the YELLOW LANE. They DON'T!!..

2) remove all provincial bus terminals located along EDSA, and i mean ALL.. set up provincial bus terminals outside the Metro area and then set up City bus terminals beside these provincial terminals that will take our people into the Metro.

3) you see buses coming from the LEFT most lane, cutting traffic just to get to the RIGHT most lane to get or unload passengers.

4) you will always see BUSes blocking intersections just to get accross, even if there is no where to go. MMDA should give tickets to all vehicles that are caught blocking intersections. As a driver, if you see that traffic infront of you has stopped and you cant go anywhere, DONT force your lame *** car into the intersection. eventually causing a traffic jam.



Cars (private or not) go from point A to point B and do not stop. So they do not cause traffic. All you have to give them is a flowing path to move into. But if you block this flow with Buses that have to stop, then everybodys path is blocked. 1) KEEP THE BUSES IN THEIR RIGHT PLACE 2) GIVE MOTORCICLE RIDING PEOPLE A LANE FOR THEMSELVES 3) GIVE CARS THE REST OF THE PATH without blocking the flow.. Study what Columbia did to solve their traffic before you go and implement things again.
morbid_angel_zero
2010-10-13 17:19:35 UTC
Implementing this right now would just be a waste of time (and gas). It was implemented more than a decade ago and it didn't work, so how will it work now that there are more cars, and even MORE buses on the road.



If the MMDA would just monitor closely EDSA, they would surely notice that heavy traffic starts at choke points on bus stops. When buses overtake other buses, they occupy at least 3 lanes. So Private vehicles are left with just 2 lanes or even worse, 1 lane to pass through.



Implementing this Odd-Even scheme in EDSA will just make motorists take a longer route, thus using more gas and spending more time on the road.



The most logical solution here is to have a strict policy against colorum buses. And enforce strict discipline at bus stops.
?
2010-10-14 01:34:49 UTC
Here we go, yet another cosmetic solution for this great city’s traffic problems!



They must be joking! What is needed is a plan for long term infrastructure and real public transport development.



In the mean time, the proposed measure is, like the number coding system is, more of an addition to the existing problems.



People who can afford to have more than one vehicle and public officials won’t see a difference.



Others, well lets say that the number of people who need to commute will not decrease! It most probably cause problems for businesses.



A real solution would be for drivers to stop swerving all over, for busses to have an imposed speed limit and for them not to be allowed on the left side of the yellow line.



Taxis should be respecting lanes, like everybody else and alternative merging should be the general rule when entering, exiting any lane.



Far too many drivers in Metro Manila fight for an inch, take the center and/or the far right lanes to turn left on u-turns etc.



What am I saying here, less egoism, more discipline and traffic officers who actually do their job in a coordinated fashion instead of waiting for the number code car to pass by so they can collect, would be woking. I’m certain.



Oh and the cars involved in accidents, please make them move aside if possible!



Efficiency comes at a price: Simplicity and Logic!
sr416x
2010-10-14 00:42:02 UTC
No.

It would only result in a short-term solution. Even if you reduce the number of vehicles plying EDSA everyday, if they

1. Do not stop handing out franchises to more buses. Also, if it is truly their objective to cut down on the carbon emissions, they should apprehend, fine, or even cancel the franchises of these smoke belchers - doing this would aid not only the environment but also the health of the travelers.

2. Still fail to effectively enforce traffic regulations. Despite the MMDA policy that their officers are not allowed to stand together in groups of 2 or more, which when one travels along the roads of Metro Manila will see more often than not. Plying the roads, one will also see numerous traffic violations that goes unpunished, even when you see a group of three MMDA traffic enforcers standing less than 5 meters away!

In my personal opinion, Implementing such a proposition would only add to one's already-enough daily travails. Travelers with only one private vehicle would also be burdened, having to commute even though they have a working car at home which they worked so hard to payed for. Jeepney drivers and cab drivers too would be burdened. Jeepney drivers, who have to work all-day everyday to put food on the table, would have to look for another job every other day so that they would have food to eat. Taxi drivers to also have to avoid passengers if their route would include passing EDSA (Include these cab riders to the list of people who would be burdened). So, who would benefit from such a policy, if there are any to benefit? Bus companies. They would have more commuters, who even if they have their own vehicles, would have to ride on their buses. Now you would probably be thinking, they would also be affected by this policy, but think again. Bus companies have the financial capacity to increase the size of their fleets. The capital needed to purchase such would easily be recovered by the influx of new passengers. How about the MRT? Well, I don't believe I need to say more. Is not the MRT over-crowded as it it?
?
2010-10-14 00:35:10 UTC
This plan is too drastic and not the solution to the problem of traffic anywhere in the city! It's curtailing freedom to use your own vehicle on roads that were built by the taxes you pay and it's like saying that we should not buy cars because there are too many already and it is causing traffic! Private vehicles pass by EDSA only once or twice daily unlike the buses and other commercial vehicles that goes back and forth thus giving more volume on the road adding to the traffic! Why include all vehicles? Give back the MMDA to Bayani Fernando! I know he can handle this problem as he did before!
?
2010-10-13 22:03:30 UTC
The implementation of any vehicle reduction scheme is an indication of MMDA's inability to actually solve the traffic problem. In effect they're saying: less vehicles, less traffic. Instead of focusing on how to reduce the number of vehicles on the road (they might as well recommend a law that would outright restrict the sale of vehicles), they could train their resources on effective traffic management. Another possible solution is to have an honest-to-goodness mass public transport system.



I don't think that I'm the first to make such suggestions. There are probably even a lot better ideas and more scientific methods to solve our perennial traffic problem. This just goes to show that the wrong people have been manning the MMDA for the longest time. Whoever's proposing to revive any scheme is merely indirectly admitting that he doesn't have any new ideas on how to solve the traffic problem or even manage it more effectively.
ferdinand
2010-10-13 21:56:36 UTC
NO TO ODD-EVEN Scheme. In the first place, the UVVRP was implemented because of the MRT construction along EDSA. Now the MRT is finished and still we have the UVVRP. Try reducing the buses along EDSA and let people know who own these buses.. may be some high ranking officials that protect their interest.

I had bought my car, paid my taxes and renewed my registration & license... and they want to restrict me from using EDSA.. wow what about my rights...buy another car (good for car industry) or borrow from relatives (still same number of cars in edsa)

Carbon emission can be reduced if there will be no traffic...if people are not to use their vehicles...the traveling time would increase and would cause longer time away from home (leave early and arrive late).. maybe MMDA should pay us for the traveling time.. not them using our taxes.....
?
2010-10-13 21:11:47 UTC
Why not include the MRT in this ridiculous & illogical scheme as well? An idiot can tell what the cause of all the traffic is. Even during holidays or Pacquiao fights when there are no private vehicles on the road you still see these nuisance buses, jeeps & tricycles creating traffic. How many times everyday do we see these idiots race each other at life threatening speeds while leaving behind a thick trail of smog then suddenly stop in front of us in the middle of the road to pick / bring down passengers? I mean how do these vehicles even become road worthy for registration and how do these drivers manage to get their licenses? These are the ones who should be under any traffic scheme. But of course, they won't because Philippines is not mature or intelligent enough to do something about these "National Treasures". Good thing I'll be living in Canada soon & there will be not jeeps, tricycles & lunatic buses to bother me there while I'm on the road. I can breathe easy at last!
Francisco
2010-10-13 19:17:39 UTC
No.



1. Affected vehicles will use the sideskirts of EDSA as an alternative route to reach their destinations. It will congest those alternate routes, hence, there still is traffic.

2. MMDA should strictly be visible on the following areas to strictly enforce the limited time of buses waiting for passengers:

a. East Ave intersection

b. Edsa Kamuning

c. Cubao (intersection of Aurora - Edsa)

d. Crossing

e. LRT Boni

f. Guadalupe

g. Ayala Edsa



I live in Rizal Area and have tried Edsa and these buses stop before their designated stops and clog the arease going to the flyover and that causes major traffic since they swerve (going from the right most lane - taking 2 or more lanes at once)



That is the main cause of traffic in edsa and that should be eliminated.



Once we get rid of that, then edsa will be free from HEAVY traffic,
?
2010-10-13 09:07:54 UTC
Yes, if they revive the odd-even scheme ONLY. Not to have BOTH schemes implemented at once. My car's plate number ends with a 7. So if you're saying they will have both schemes at once, it means I can only use my car for work on Tuesday and Saturday. Besides, it will cause EXTREME confusion with motorists and the MMDA. How can that be productive if you can't drive yourself to work? The MRT is congested, their fees are going to increase and it isn't always reliable. Who also wants to hand over their lives over to our professional PUV drivers?



If they want to reduce congestion in EDSA ad Metro Manila, they should DESTROY all PUVs that have no franchise. So instead of catching them, fining them and then they find themselves back on to EDSA, their vehicles will be DESTROYED. The MMDA should also enforce buses taking A & B routes, to stay in the yellow lane and if they cross it, fine them and impound their vehicle for a day.



If I can only use my car three days in a week, I might as well sell it and try to buy two second hand cars so I can earn a living each day. There is no point in owning a car if it's just in your garage collecting dust.



I'm sure the gas companies will get mad. That might not push through because the gas companies will lose a huge sum of what they're earning and the government will lose the taxes from that.
cesar
2010-10-14 01:08:16 UTC
The number coding nor the odd-even scheme is not a solution to the traffic problem in metro manila. If you do this people will only buy an extra car to get around it.What really needs to be done is the proper implementation of traffic rules. One main cause of traffic jams in metro manila are the buses, jeeps, and fx taxi cabs who stop any where they want to get or drop off passengers. If you control this then you practically solve the traffic problem. there is no number coding in Marikina or in Sucat if I'm not mistaken. But they don't have much of a traffic problem because they apprehend traffic violators. In the USA they don't have any vehicle reduction schemes. But they do have a car pool rule. This it where they have priority lanes for vehicles that carry three or more people, and those which have only one to two people have to stay in the slow lanes. But this can only be done if the cars follow the rule that dark tints are not allowed. another traffic rule we don't follow and that is not being implemented by our traffic enforcers or police.
Pirateboy
2010-10-14 00:25:33 UTC
i'm answering this in a student's point of view.



i would disagree with the odd-even scheme. why?



yes, it would lessen carbon emissions in EDSA only. it would probably lessen traffic (hopefully).



a lot of people bring their cars to work, but when this scheme takes effect, people would be forced to commute i.e. take a bus, MRT/LRT, jeep, etc.



BUT look at our society today. we have TOO MANY buses, taxis, jeepneys, and a lot LESS trains for the MRT/LRT. if the government could add a lot more trains (like 6 or 7 more) and lower the fare, then by all means implement the odd-even scheme.



But since we only have a small number of trains, people would be pushing just to get inside the trains (train passengers would agree with me). People would have to wait for the next train to come because the first train is already full. if there are too many passengers in the train, it would lead to accidents. in addition, our government would increasing the train fare.



Also, the traffic enforcers are mainly concentrated with catching offenders rather than regulating the flow of traffic and/or avoiding bumper to bumper traffic jams.



Buses also contribute to the pollution. Black smoke comes out heavily. Some public transpo drivers are also rude, and don't follow stop lights and street signs which would definitely cause "chaos".



I would suggest that color coding scheme would be implemented for private vehicles, while odd-even scheme would be for public transportation. If odd-even scheme would be implemented for private vehicles, i suggest that there would be window hours because the main purpose of this schemes (number coding and odd-even) is for the lessening of cars during rush hour period.



I really hope they find a BETTER way to solve this. I know there is, they just have to find it.
Teresita
2010-10-13 20:57:58 UTC
I do not agree that ODD/EVEN scheme will ease out traffic along EDSA. We had tried that long time ago but it didn't work. The problem is the undisciplined bus drivers traversing EDSA everyday, look how they pile up waiting for passengers at intersections, how they swerve left and right and suddenly will cut each other on intersections. Plus the fact that traffic laws are not well implented by the pile of traffic enforcers along EDSA. Also, the number of dilapidated vehicles (20+ years old) still on the road! Maybe it is time for the LTO to act on this.
Natasha Valerie
2010-10-13 20:46:20 UTC
Yes I think this would be effective. Although it would be hard for those who only have one car, but it would really reduce the bumper-to-bumper traffic in EDSA. Because you see, it gets really traffic almost all-day, especially nowadays, that there are millions of cars here in Metro. So I guess that would really help us a lot. I can keep two cars, one with the odd number, and one with an even number. We should at least try, if this odd-even scheme would work out, then if not, we could just bring back the UVVRP.
?
2010-10-13 19:27:50 UTC
it is a big NO.

why? people who owns car are even wiser that any MMDA.

to answer a problem is to root out the problem, then what is the problem? It is MMDA itself that allows colurum and smoke belching vehicles ply along edsa. View how they load and unload people?If ever i am hit by the odd-even bright idea, i go my way off edsa, so many routes though may require longer time, but what about congestions that will build-up on other places? Not MMDA concern anymore? Is it not transfering problem from edsa to C5 or C3 or wherever?

I guess there is better solution to that as mentioned by other "NO group".

One suggestion is to decipline riders and drivers, try what ayala traffic descipline, one cannot ride or get down at non designated area. May be jail for a while riders on wrong place... would deminish drivers to stop at an awkward position.
Eric S. Borromeo
2010-10-13 18:14:37 UTC
Yes I agree that it will help ease the traffic in EDSA.



However, the secondary roads which will be used as alternate routes by most of the vehicles, will only make things worse. Secondary roads and side streets will be congested as this specific scheme have been implemented years back - result - heavy traffic.



There are still quite a number of critical spots that the MMDA must take a serious look at. For example - EDSA corner Taft Avenue northbound - I observed that the flow of traffic is hampered by jeeney's use of the corner as terminal for loading and unloading. Traffic tail-end is all the way to Roxas boulevard only to find out that once you cross Taft Avenue traffic is smooth sailing.



MMDA must take a closer look via aerial view of the flow especially during peak hours from EDSA Roxas boulevard all the way to Monumento and vice versa. In this way, they will see the main cause and eventually identify the bottle neck areas.



Right timing of traffic lights must be observed in order to come up with a clear solution to this problem. Check the timing, the volume of vehicles and strict implementation of loading and unloading points for public utility vehicles 24 hours a day.



A continuous program / campaign educating the public on discipline, strict adherence to road rules and regulations. MMDA must patiently remind the public via ad campaign - print, radio and TV.
Felix Silvester
2010-10-13 23:39:27 UTC
I dont agree with their odd-even scheme. It is just a band-aid solution. The problem lies with EDSA itself where portions narrow down from 5 lanes to 3 or 2 lanes in some areas, for example: EDSA cor taft, EDSA cor Buendia and the bus stop areas. These are due to bus stop areas, merging flyover ramps etc. which create a funnel effect where all the vehicles converge on a narrow portion. These are the things that they should solve. The government should buy land in these areas so EDSA can maintain the number of lanes(5) needed without the bus stops or converging flyovers/ underpass, etc.
jb
2010-10-13 20:38:15 UTC
I don't think that the implementation of the odd/even scheme will alleviate the traffic along EDSA.



I think the real problem here is not about keeping private and public vehicles out of EDSA but the controlling and monitoring of the number of public utility vehicles plying these roads.



How many times do we experience traffic. And when we come in contact with the source of it, we see a bus blocking the road, waiting for passengers. Since almost all buses do this, it is really inevitable that traffic will be heavy.



Even if we reduce the number of vehicles in our major roads, I think that traffic will still be heavy due to the undisciplined actions of vehicle drivers, especially of PUVs.



And besides, implementing an odd/even scheme will only encourage consumers to buy more cars to address this scheme. With this result, you fail still in reducing carbon emissions. You even made it worse.



One source of the problem is LTFRB's outrageous franchise distribution measures. This is shown by the number of buses plying EDSA with their seats not even fully utilized.



Another source is LTO's issuance of licenses to drivers who are not even qualified.



Giving stricter control measures and punishments will help. But first of all, the government must focus on what is really going on inside LTFRB and LTO.
jeffrey l
2010-10-13 23:53:09 UTC
Yes, i think this scheme is more effective than the existing.The scheme will increase the average speed of the vehicles in edsa by around 67% based on the 30kph average now. By the way, i'm a regular commuter in edsa and i think edsa is too congested.

For suggestion, i think theres a law regarding the overloading of passenger for public vehicles, i dont understand why the mmda is ignoring the buses with overloading of passengers( specially the route LRT-Ayala). I think its a accident thats waiting to happen. i just hope its not too late before we make actions.
?
2010-10-13 20:39:13 UTC
I'm not in favor of bringing back the Odd / Even scheme! Number coding is already effective. We have several problem that causes congestion in Edsa! For example in the area of Guadalupe, all Jeepneys passing through Edsa and going to down to JP rizal in North Bound "GRABE" it causes too much congestion! Another thing in all major Station of Edsa if you'll notice these buses really SUCKS! they usually stop there for a long time and that causes severe traffic! This should be work out by MMDA and not drastically implement this STUPID Odd / Even scheme! I have several friends and i including have all vehicles with EVEN numbers! This is not the solution to our problem! Mag esep esep naman kayo!
?
2010-10-13 17:11:19 UTC
Dear Chairman,



The OddEven scheme is not the solution to the traffic problem in Metro Manila.



1.Your men in the field are poorly trained. From the men aligning the street to the motorcycle riding ones, they all don’t know what EXACTLY is a violation and not. They mostly do not do their job but just stand there or just park their bikes doing nothing. Seek assistance from private organizations PMA/AAP, etc., even the Dev't Academy of the Phils can help train and support your men on the field. You can also think of getting corporate sponsors...



2.Your studies have shown that the number of Buses plying Edsa are more than the passengers already. DO NOT be afraid to implement immediate bus reduction schemes because the loss of livelihood of the Buses/Conductors is NOT your problem, it’s the Bus company’s problem.



3.Jeeps are supposed to be prohibited along edsa and yet there have routs traversing edsa. Case in point

a. Guadapule – Cartimar (?) – Passengers should just get off Buendia then use MRT/Bus to Guadalupe etc. The Jeep shouldn’t be allowed to use Edsa to Guadalupe and just turn around back to Cartimar from edsa.

b. Pasay - Alabang, Sucat etc. Passengers from Taft should use MRT until Magallanes then take buses going to Alabang and get off in Sucat.

c. North area – same thing…The MRT/LRT is existing so encourage passengers to use them.



4.Both Buses / Jeepney drivers are driven by uneducated drivers. Remember, it is not the machine but the driver who creates the havoc and is reckless. Unless you tie up with National Govt agencies – DOTC/LTO/LTFRB and even LGUs to educate or offer alternative livelihood for these drivers/conductors, their numbers will increase and so will their ignorance of Social Responsibility. Remember, if we can give NPAs/MI’s/ASG alternative livelihood, why can’t we also help these drivers/conductors



There are other ways to consider but bear in mind, the OddEven scheme affects not only private cars but also trucks the carry economic load.



I am sure you can be more creative than that!



Hoy Gising!
Yzobelle
2010-10-13 16:29:30 UTC
This scheme would be favorable to people if we have good public transportation vehicles. But since our buses and trains are not even enough, bringing back this scheme would just bring more stress to commuters. The present number coding is enough.



What MMDA has to work on is the discipline of the drivers, especially the bus drivers along EDSA.
?
2010-10-13 07:59:30 UTC
My suggestion is to have 6-hour scheme. If plates ending in odd number, they can use their vehicle at 7 am to 1 pm, then the plates ending with even number can used their vehicles at 1 pm to 7 pm for MWF(Monday, Wednesday & Friday) while during TThS(Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday), the plates ending in even number can used 7 am to 1 pm while plates ending in odd number can used 1 pm to 7 pm. With this scheme, the volume reduces to 50 percent not only on the entire EDSA road but in all Metro Manila roads.



Hope that Traffic enforcers will still implement the rules strictly.
2016-01-28 14:36:42 UTC
On one hand, because of Metro Manila's own fault, there are people coming from all over the country and they need to be somewhere. People cannot help it when they come to Manila to trade, work, study, and transact business with government offices. So they buy cars or ride buses. Every year, this is increasing. What's not increasing are the roads. There should have been a more dynamic city planning system and that maybe they should have heeded the words of urban planners.
2014-10-27 11:07:32 UTC
The odd-even scheme will replace the the Unified Vehicular Volume Reduction Program (UVVRP) or number coding scheme for the entire stretch of EDSA only, the number coding scheme will still be in effect outside this area.



The proposal also will cover all types of privately-owned vehicles and city/provincial buses.



According to the MMDA, by implementing this they expect to reduce the volume of vehicles in EDSA by around 40 percent. They also said that by doing this, people will be more productive, there will be less carbon emissions, which will lead to a less stressful daily life in Metro Manila.
?
2010-10-14 02:41:20 UTC
The MMDA's proposal to revive the Odd-Even Vehicular Volume Reduction Program for the entire stretch of EDSA might reduce the volume of vehicles in for a short period of time but eventually people who need to traverse along EDSA for their daily living may just buy another car when they can afford it. Then the problem will come back, or even worst for they will be mor cars running on the road other than EDSA. The government should provide more effective and safe public transports so people can commute on public vehicles than using theeir own cars. Many other cities are doing that like Singapore, Taipei, etc.
?
2010-10-14 00:48:00 UTC
This odd-even scheme will do NO EFFECT on the traffic situation in EDSA, simply because RICH people will just buy another car, so in reality, there will still be more cars.



Let me make a suggestion on how to improve the traffic situation in EDSA. Why don't you just fix the road. A SMOOTH ROAD will make traffic flow more freely, thus reducing heavy flow in EDSA. See what happened to the NLEX and SLEX. After they fixed the road, travel time in the expressway was greatly reduced.
emerito
2010-10-13 21:21:45 UTC
Implementing this measures will jeopardise more business transactions on daily basis that in turn affects the life of individuals, even on public and in private sector.



EDSA is the prime way that connects from Balintawak up to Makati and up to South area, where businesses, schools, offices were located. And most of the transactions of many individuals or group of people or any other entities are located.



We should not harm peoples chances to move and arrange their schedules daily by enforcing this ODD - EVEN Scheme again.



Or else, the goverment should fine a way to construct alternative route underground of EDSA to solve this problem.
?
2010-10-13 19:58:04 UTC
There's no need to replace the existing Unified Vehicular Volume Reduction Program. I think the best thing MMDA can do to reduce traffic and lessen carbon emission are the following: First, coordinate with LTFRB and LTO (it's useless without coordinating in these government institutions). Second, is to strictly implement the existing number coding and the bus lane (bus must pass on the yellow lane only), Third, with the coordination with LTFRB and LTO, they must apprehend those smoke belching vehicles, vehicles that has defective/broken tail and headlights, no side mirrors and erring drivers. These will relieve the headache of those law abiding motorists.
?
2010-10-13 19:18:27 UTC
I don't think this is the best solution to EDSA's traffic problem. The way I see it, it all boils down to discipline and strict compliance to traffic laws. For example, public buses should really stay on yellow lanes and not swerve to wherever bus drivers wanted. This practice is oftentimes the culprit in the numerous accidents in EDSA, thus, causing the montrous traffic jams.

We all know that most, if not all, private car owners are really cautious in their driving since they are too protective of their cars and of course, their lives. Why do they have to suffer the consequences of irresponsible bus drivers? Implement the rules and stop "tongpats" on EDSA. We see it with our own two eyes- it is very obvious!

Instill discipline to both bus drivers and MMDA enforcers! This is the best solution and the only solution!
?
2010-10-13 17:35:16 UTC
If MMDA really want to reduce the volume & emissions. Try put coding on public bus.etc because this are the no 1 problem in emissions they don't change oil regularly. Private car only use there vehicles to office and to meeting. While public vehicles goes round and round the street even without any passenger and they stop anywhere . Try have all the public vehicles in EDSA undergoes emissions test. rather than public vehicles ( dahil kotong lang ). Also How can someone goes to his office if for example your office is in Pasay between Tramo & South expressway. Coming from South or Roxas or Taft you still will pass EDSA while alot of MMDA will apprehend you for the odd-even scheme ( labas pa yun kotong). Well to MMDA study it properly on all connecting to EDSA. before you proceed
2010-10-13 17:00:16 UTC
I'm okay with it but for the public utility vehicles only. Because they are the only trouble in EDSA specially the buses.

I think if the MMDA can control the way they drive and how they can load and unload, EDSA will be a less traffic road for motorist.

I hope they can be very firm with the traffic rules. I mean no exemption.
?
2010-10-13 07:09:07 UTC
I feel that this will further burden people rather than help them. Although it may reduce volume because car owners with one vehicle will not be able to use their vehicles at least three times a week, the efficiency, availability of options (and safety!) of our public transport system may not be able to support the needs of the riding public. Instead of implementing the drastic measure, we should look at suspending the 10am-3pm window and see how this goes first. Also, look at stricter implementation of laws that would greatly contribute to the reduction of vehicles and/or orderly travel (e.g. drive against colorum and smoke-belching vehicles, buses and jeepneys which use EDSA and other major streets as terminals, counter flowing tricycles/padyaks in the EDSA/Taft intersection and underneath most flyovers. We should also have a stringent screening of applicants for licenses - a lot of the drivers (that includes motorcycles) have no discipline or have no/limited knowledge of basic laws or street signs that contribute to traffic.
RogerS
2010-10-13 06:36:43 UTC
No. Problem in EDSA is :

1) more due to undiscipline Bus, Taxi, or jeeps loading and unloading in the center of EDSA without consideration for the traffic generated.

2) inattentive or dozing off traffic enforcers who look the other way cos they get tongs;

3) traffic mismanagement at intersections as the enforcers allow traffic to block the intersections

causing a grid lock

4) ban all colorum buses.

5) Solve the above and traffic will go down.
?
2010-10-14 03:02:39 UTC
No. I am vehemently against this retard scheme.

Obviously private vehicles are not the cause of traffic in EDSA. This ODD-EVEN scheme is unconstitutional and unfair. Why should private vehicle owners, who pay taxes, suffer because of the ineptitude and corruption of the MMDA?

The MMDA is just a nest of thieves in blue uniforms, totally useless and should be abolished!

Private citizens: Please do not allow these incompetents to trample upon your civil rights. This ODD-EVEN scheme is unconstitutional and we should be worried we have an idiot retard like Tolentino in charge. If they really are sincere in finding solutions for the traffic in EDSA, let them do away first with the colorum buses, then the franchises of the surplus buses that ply the EDSA route, destroy the bus and jeepney terminals strewn across EDSA.

These retards with simple brains never even realized that private vehicles only use EDSA a small percentage of the time, unlike buses which use the avenue 24/7. Cull their numbers then you'll see improvements.
stephen p
2010-10-13 17:33:56 UTC
No, reducing the volume of vehicle is not the main solution to traffic in EDSA. Those vehicle swerving near the overpass, bus do not follow the bus lane. they often exceed the bus lane which cause traffic to the other lane. One of the problem in EDSA are U-Turn, it cause accidents and slowing down of vehicle. Reducing vehicle doesn't make us efficient, instead of the vehicle at 100% capacity, it will be reduce to 50% the 50% of the time is just park at the garage. Traffic enforcer doesn't know where is the root of the traffic, some of them are just standing and waiting private vehicle to cross the bus lane
?
2010-10-13 06:12:50 UTC
i don't agree with this.



first by doing this most commuters will be forced to ride the MRT which i doubt could accomodate an increase in customers. MRT users as of now are really having a hard time whenever they ride this train.

the commuters are so many to handle for that small train even with increased number of trips. much more if they would implement this scheme.



second the primary problem in EDSA are those unregistered buses and the poor implementation of law. They must really focus on this problem first to be able to solve the never ending traffic in EDSA.
mtpineda2003
2010-10-13 17:51:24 UTC
Too much regulations on traffic... number coding is enough. No need for odd-even, youre only making it hard for us Filipinos. Think of something else to help reduce the traffic. No number coding or odd-even should be implemented on weekends since this is the only time families can relax and enjoy during weekend.



Also, to help ease the traffic, I think the best solution is control the buses plying the metro. If you notice, theyre all over the road. They stop wherever they want and uses the lane for private vehicles. Train your traffic officers more.
?
2010-10-13 14:40:30 UTC
One the biggest contributing factors of traffic and pollution are the jeepneys. They are almost 3/4 the length of a bus but have only about 1/5 the passenger capacity compared to a bus. They are ugly, and they will not pass any emission testing. The same goes with the tricycles. Both modes of transportation should be banned from the street.



Yes, many jeepney and tricycle drivers will lose their jobs in the process but that is the price of change. The government should find new ways of generating jobs without sacrificing environment and smooth flow of traffic.



IF THERE'S A WILL THERE'S A WAY!
esting
2010-10-13 10:21:06 UTC
No, im not agree with it, think about another solution, traffic enforcer should issue ticket on violator, no any negotiation, driver should take schooling and revoke the license and not allowed to drive in 6 month, decipline the driver, strengthen the emission testing, no any under the table, cancelled the registration of old vehicle, that faileds the test, make a agency that will test the vehicle condition,so those that failed be cancelled, strict implementation of traffic rules, no kotong to enforcer evento the policemen, there must be a time limit in every loading and unloading zone, and in jeepney terminals. There must be also a strict implementation o pedestrian rules, a the last i want to say is make the rules for all violator to make them deciplined after.
?
2010-10-13 05:23:41 UTC
Wow, Eric. Exagge ka naman. Maybe government has that plan of building infrastructure in the works, but since that may take maybe a year or so, reviving the odd-even scheme would be a quicker and more easily implementable solution.



I'd personally welcome this proposal, if it meant significantly reducing vehicular traffic. Traversing EDSA is really no joke, and has increasingly become worse, even during WEEKENDS!
Vimal
2014-12-02 21:26:44 UTC
I do not agree that ODD/EVEN scheme will ease out traffic along EDSA. We had tried that long time ago but it didn't work. The problem is the undisciplined bus drivers traversing EDSA everyday, look how they pile up waiting for passengers at intersections, how they swerve left and right and suddenly will cut each other on intersections. Plus the fact that traffic laws are not well implented by the pile of traffic enforcers along EDSA. Also, the number of dilapidated vehicles (20+ years old) still on the road! Maybe it is time for the LTO to act on this.
Lucky
2015-01-26 10:27:38 UTC
I don't think there's no solving the problem of the number of cars and buses along EDSA except probably constructing more roads, something like secondary roads but along EDSA. This seems to be a logical step because Manila has grown since the early 1900s but the physical systems and utilities in place for a growing city were never implemented.
?
2010-10-14 00:00:56 UTC
Absolutely NO. The problem actually is the number of buses that is flying the EDSA as well as those delivery trucks. Based on the socalled "Yellow Lane" this already occupied half of the EDSA lane for buses and they even get out of that yellow lane and occupied the lane supposedly for Private Vehicle. To make it short, TALAGANG SOBRA NA ANG BUSES sa EDSA. I think that even applying number coding with Buses will help eased the traffic in Edsa. This, during the time of Ben Abalos was applied to them and delivery trucks & van are also not allowed in EDSA, maganda ang traffic during that time and i really like what Ben Abalos did during his time.



Tks

Mr. Galleta
sniper
2010-10-13 23:44:12 UTC
I think this is OK but of course this will also have a negative effect on most of the citizens. you know, whatever scheme they implement whether its number coding or odd-even scheme, it is still congested here in Metro manila not unless the government will properly implement the following, to wit:



1. Vehicles must only be allowed to be registered and be used within 5 years just like in Japan and South Korea.

2. Punish all corrupt enforcers to the full extent of the law.

3. Implement a law that prohibits the use of gas thirsty engines such as V6 and V8 for cars and SUVs

4. Implement the law which prohibits the use of heavy tints for cars (to get rid of bad asses)

5. Pass a law which limits ownership of vehicles to a maximum of two (bahala na ang mga madadaya na ipapangalan sa aso nila yung 4 na porsche nila)

6. magisip naman kayo ng ibang suggestion. salamat!
Ruperto
2010-10-13 23:30:17 UTC
My answer is a BIG NO!!!



The new Chairman of MMDA must be in cahoots with those selling second hand cars. Because people whose car plate are bearing odd number would just be buying additional second hand car with plate having even number. Instead of reducing the volume of vehicles, people with one car will have two cars. This is just plain stupidity. The traffic in EDSA is caused by large volume of buses with no passengers and are making EDSA their own private parking and the MMDA personnel who are allowing these buses.
walker
2010-10-13 22:09:17 UTC
Actually, the MMDA could come up with a lot of solutions they can think of but I don't think it would make a huge - or at least drastic - change in the traffic flow. Drivers here in the Philippines should learn how to follow proper driving rules and regulations. I know using USA traffic flow as reference might anger the nationalistic Pinoy drivers but just think: USA does not suffer every single day being stuck in heavy traffic ALL THROUGH OUT their way somewhere. They have really strict law they have to follow or suffer the consequence of not driving ever again. If it were implemented here then there wouldn't be so much trouble with heavy traffic flow. Bribery should also be banned.
?
2010-10-13 21:09:55 UTC
my simple formula for traffic in the metro: time you spend in traffic is directly proportional to the number of public utility vehicles in front of you. for example, on a two lane street with traffic going both ways, each jeepney will stop for approximately 3 to 5 minutes trying to fill up their vehicles with passengers and flirting with the barkers. so if you have 5 jeepneys in front, youll spend approximately 25 minutes stuck for just one loading area. this formula also applies to other puvs.

im not saying that you should get rid of puvs, im saying that the drivers should be disciplined. increase the fines for puvs. let them fear the law. ive heard once that the operators didnt like this idea because it gave additional financial strain to the drivers. that is the most stupid thing ive ever heard. the only reason for them to get affected is IF THEY BREAK THE LAW. otherwise if they follow it then no fines will be metted.

i hope the mmda officials take the time to go undercover and just try to ride a bus from one end of edsa to the other. then theyll know that any scheme they try wont work not unless they change the attitude of the drivers.
Deyb
2010-10-13 11:31:24 UTC
NO. It deprived the rights of every vehicle owners of the right to use the roads. Is that the solution after imposing hefty increase in road users tax? MMDA should stop experimenting, they should sit and think. U-turns causes a lot of traffic jams rather than easing the traffic. MMDA should effectively police all major roads of abusive PUB/PUJ and must impose the rules and regulations by the book. Ensure PUB/PUJ will only pick and drop passengers in designated PUB/PUJ stops. At each crossings its very obvious that PUB/PUJ intentionally slowed down and stop before the red light so that they can pick passengers. Closing of PUB's doors at non bus stop areas should be imposed. By not allowing colorum PUB/PUJ/Trycicle anywhere else will surely ease traffic. Its just the will and determination of the MMDA and not any sort of codings will ease the traffic. Lastly, only honest with integrity and responsible MMDA in the officeand enforcers on the roads can do the job done otherwise lets keep the UVVRP for now.
?
2010-10-14 00:25:21 UTC
No, I am not in favor of this odd-even scheme. The traffic problem in EDSA was due to the buses plying that route which load and unload even at the center of the road that blocked the flow of traffic. They even have the gall to wait for passengers without thinking of vehicles they are blocking which results to extended traffic. Just watch the traffic report in morning news and you can see the volume of buses waiting for passengers.
Allan
2010-10-13 21:16:21 UTC
No. It's a lazy solution to traffic and carbon emission.



Everyone knows that under maintained buses who heavily pollutes the air are seen in EDSA while middle-class-owned diesel private vehicle are repeatedly milked by the anti-pollution group. Why? MMDA should answer.



Of course, there are cases of bus franchise using plates on same or their different buses. How? MMDA should find out.



Who owns multiple cars/vehicle? The majority or the minority rich people? Thus, will the majority benefit on this odd-even scheme? MMDA should know.



Are taxpayers paying the MMDA agency to be this less innovative and more intramurals? MMDA should ask themselves.



Lazy... Weak... Fail.. :(



Why not setup a bike lane and promote safe bike parking in different establishment to encourage more people to bike to work. One bike on the road--one less car one less passenger. Less pollution, more exercise. Think think think... Don't be a lazy thinker.
?
2010-10-13 17:51:03 UTC
I do not agree with this. In some other countries in the world like Bahrain, they have very small streets and high ways. But the volume of vehicles is too much for the street to handle. But then, since the drivers in that place were really disciplined, the traffic is tolerable. Same thing that needed in our country. Drivers need to be disciplined not only to lessen the problem in traffic but also to avoid accidents. I think, when all drivers (specially the public utility vehicle drivers) have discipline, traffic will be less stressful.
luk2yang
2010-10-13 17:28:19 UTC
Definitely No. I suggest to try to religiously implement the close door policy to buses in EDSA. Discipline those PUV drivers loading and unloading passengers at the middle of the streets. Deploy MMDA traffic personnel as early as 5:30 am. I also suggest having dedicated lanes for motored bikes.
?
2010-10-13 16:16:23 UTC
Hi

My oppinion is this will not solve the problem at all in the long run, to be able and manage the traffic on Edsa, it is only one way to do it, put restriction agains registration like they have in Singapore, if one new car will be register here in Manila, one old car have to go to the junkshop, and that registration used for the newly registered car, The road infrastructure is not prepared and implemented for all those cars that is showered in on the roads due to all promotions from the car dealers

Johnny
cutieazil
2010-10-13 09:28:31 UTC
no, it will not do anything, we can save mother earth by lessening those buses, that does not obey the rules and those mmda's that receive "tongs" from the buses. almost all buses are smoke velching, and they don't care about other cars in the edsa, they load and unload anytime, i suggest that the government should implement a law like the buses in HongKong (no offense to the hostage taking) all the bus driver are well disciplined, and the bus only travel to a certain place and load and unload in the proper loading/unloading point w/c do not block other vehicles. and its also not smart to make people commute, specially with some high class people and business persons, because as we know, there are alot of crimes that happen when you commute (snatching, robbery, kidnapping, etc) and its not wise to put their safety at risk, its only wise to make them commute if they tightened the law, reduce poverty and such, instead of wasting money on repainting structures that doesn't need of repainting and with the extra money they have left in repainting that was put in their pockets, they should just help and donate to the poor to lessen the crimes. make this country a nice, safe and confortable place to live in.
?
2010-10-13 23:13:57 UTC
No.



I think they're implementing this as a quick fix while still unable to solve issues on road quality and public transportation. In EDSA, you'd still see colorum vehicles, low quality stretches of the highway and uneducated bus drivers.



Now is not the right time and this only proves that the administration is jumping the gun again.
?
2010-10-13 22:47:55 UTC
Actually, the issue here is not actually solve whether we bring back the odd-even scheme or not. the solution here to reduce the volume of vehicles is that the "LAWMAKERS" should pass a bill prohibiting vehicles with more than 5-year use vehicle to travel in all main road. Or automatic cancellation of registration for all vehicles reaching 5 years of age. It's just like population growth in our country that yearly increases since we don't have LAW or passed bill. If this happen, MMDA need not set any scheme just to lessen the volume of vehicles in all main roads. It will normalize the flow of traffic once this become law. Thank you and god bless to all.
?
2010-10-13 18:18:54 UTC
No. I'm not in favor to that. What about the vehicles used by companies to run their businesses like couriers and logistics? And even numerous sales representatives who uses cars to deliver their day-to-day transactions? It would just paralyze the business flow. And EDSA is the only major road accessible to all areas in the metro. If one of the concerns of MMDA is the pollution/carbon dioxide that vehicles emit, then lessen the number of vehicles by banning those old cars/vehicles. LTO should limit their usability, they are the ones who emit too much carbon dioxide. And LTFRB must also award franchises to operators whose vehicles are new and passes smoke emission tests. Ang hirap kasi dito saten, kahit kakarag-karag na at kalawangin ang sasakyan eh lumulusot pa sa LTO...not all vehicles passing through EDSA are smoke belchers...so kawawa naman yung mga may-ari ng mga bagong sasakyan who cannot afford to buy two cars with two different plate numbers just so they could pass through EDSA the whole week.
?
2010-10-13 05:49:32 UTC
I understand the odd-even system and yes, it does help to reduce the insanity that most city thoroughfares are, all across the world. I would have to actually read the proposals as they are written because most bills are written in such legalese languages that they are difficult for the common citizen to comprehend or understand.

Any traffic reduction is good for all.

I do not know if it is the best, there is no best, there is what works and what one prefers.

You ask if is wise to revive the odd even system, I ask why was it halted. I will have to investigate this proposal more thoroughly to make an informed decision.

As posted, yes I am in favor of halving any traffic situation.
?
2010-10-13 16:02:29 UTC
No! by doing this to EDSA motorist will definitely find alternate routes in order to escape or bypass the edsa odd even scheme thus clogging smaller roads which some are already clogged during school hours.
Vic Lo
2010-10-14 02:54:23 UTC
Not all motorists and motorists to be are aware of the odd-even vehicular volume reduction program (UVVRP). I suggest that you publish again (in a widely read newspaper and/or tabloid) the mechanics of this program. Then do another survey (as above) through the internet for the public's opinion. If necessary test run the program for one month to a maximum of three months. Honestly evaluate the result. If the result is positive, that it reduces MM traffic, then continue with the program; renewable after three years, if still found to be feasible (it reduces traffic), then make it a permanent program.
liljohn
2010-10-14 02:01:06 UTC
I think it can lessen the volume of traffic along edsa, but i also would like to comment regarding the number of public vehicles (puj,puv,taxi,bus,fx) operating in metro manila, LTFRB did not regulate on giving franchise to public vehicles that's why there are so many public vehicles in metro manila which makes the traffic flow in the metro so congested. if LTFRB limited giving franchises i think the traffic flow will not be heavy compare to today's situation
allan
2010-10-13 06:18:48 UTC
Not In Favor, this will decongest edsa..yes no doubt about that, but the 40% reduced vehicles will just go thru inside routes and will then just clog other areas. So why not just let EDSA drown itself to traffic and let alone other routes free from traffic.





What Id really like to see is major change in clogging points and what measures are they going to take about it.
?
2010-10-13 21:24:30 UTC
they cant, they shouldn't if they don't want to overcrowd buses and trains more, the traffic is there because of people coming and going from their work or whatever the reason they are using EDSA, OK so lets say they did approve this and went in to action , then all the intercity roads will be then massed with these "cars that cant go to edsa". they just removed the cars from edsa and placed it elsewhere. and of course. itll be harder to travel. people will be more reproductive? how? your train is packed, buses is swarming with people, you cant take your car because of this scheme (thats the worst case) ok so you leave early ( less sleep, less socialization w/ family ), my point is the traffic will be minimal but the shock to the mass will be more hmm damaging? less stressful if your allowed in edsa during the scheme naintindihan ba? asar. i dunno why but i hate that scheme.
Reymund Lambert
2010-10-13 17:35:51 UTC
No. The real cause of traffic are the public transport (PUB and PUJ). MMDA seems to be looking the other way when it comes to imposing discipline to the public transport sector.



Real Causes of Traffic



1. Illegal parking

2. Bad road condition

3. Too many constructions that don't need construction

4. Jeep and buses picking and dropping off passengers in the middle of the road

5. Vultures roaming in the streets

6. MMDA bus terminal in Edsa

7. Illegal vendors in the street



Don't make new traffic schemes ..Just enforce existing traffic laws!
?
2010-10-13 23:34:25 UTC
Yes it would help somehow. But the root cause of the heavy traffic is that there are just too many buses along EDSA. It's not that bad though when all those buses would just stay in their lanes.
?
2010-10-13 18:21:48 UTC
Have you seen how bus drivers drive specially before dawn breaks. They do not mind other motorist. Just try to pass by SM Fairview and see how PUJ/PUB have virtually made the whole Quirino and Regalado avenues as terminals.



EDSA is no exception. You heard it all from others who also responded. DISCIPLINE RUDE DRIVERS, MORE SO BUS DRIVERS. Take them out first, if traffic still persist then I say YES. But if the Odd-Even scheme is only a way to look a blind eye to what is really the problem for whatever "reason" then forgive me but HELL NO.



And I do often prefer to pass by side streets and have to deal with jeepneys and tricycles who are equally rude motorists.
?
2010-10-13 07:46:39 UTC
The scheme is a temporary remedy, not a permanent solution. As long as traffic rules are not strictly implemented, buses load/unload freely anywhere, EDSA will always be congested.
Diana
2010-10-14 00:55:16 UTC
No. Most of the traffic is caused by empty buses plying EDSA or waiting at stations. Implement bus scheduling so that no buses will travel without passengers.
Jean
2010-10-13 21:03:42 UTC
that is absolutely insane!!!!! seems like they are not thinking.., they just want to implement something that is not accepted by the majority.,



and plus - they want to implement this the last quarter of the year??? when xmas holiday is almost ON???



and very unfair.., your Saturday will be used??! i hate the one who thought about this!! mine is Odd - we go out of town most of the time every weekend?????





yes this is just in Edsa - meaning you will spend too much in your gasoline.., and you have to know your route??? what if you are not familiar with those places , alternative route just not to pass by edsa??? but where exactly is that??? there are some places inevitably you will really pass by edsa..,



please please ... drop this idea!!!!!!!!! i think it will make the situation worst some people with money has more than one car..,



and to others with just one car- they are now trying to buy a fake plate number???? seeee???
cagevido
2010-10-13 18:37:39 UTC
This is ridiculous. This will be a mess. Implementing different rules on specific areas. Number coding alone is already confusing with different cities having different implementation. It paints a poor planning of our government. This is all but a band-aid solution. Think long term MMDA. You need to look into the root causes such as limiting the franchise of buses.
jjm
2010-10-13 18:18:46 UTC
I think there are too many buses. they purposely clog the road to wait for passengers. the public passenger vehicles are causing the massive traffic and the air pollution. private vehicles usually wants to arrive to its destination quickly unlike buses and jeepneys. government should regulate the movement of the public transport vehicles such that they do not crowd the roads with almost empty seats. if the buses travel can be controlled such that they only pass every 5 or ten minutes (like the LRT/MRT) and then do not stay for more than 2 minutes, then it will improve the traffic immensely.
?
2010-10-13 08:54:39 UTC
My answer is no.



A better solution is to stop giving franchises to the already over-populated bus and jeepney community of producers. Jeepneys have plagued our roads and highways since the mid-20th century but improvements in the vehicle are almost non existent. They just keep on producing and producing these monstrosities with no new things to offer on the table.

Also, bus and jeepneys here in the Philippines are obviously the dirtiest carbon emission producers in the RP highways. Lessening them would obviously lessen carbon emissions.



Have these public transportations state owned so you would have a lesser problem -now thats another better solution.
philmrasco
2010-10-18 05:24:25 UTC
EDSA is the main way to and from the northern provinces of Luzon. It will really gain the benefits, but the effects will be catastrophic to the farmers. Not to mention workers with only one car. I also believe that the MRT and the buses along EDSA could not handle the passengers. The person who made this recommendation has never ridden the MRT at rush hour.
2010-10-14 01:47:07 UTC
Yes, i'm in favor.



It would be great to implement the odd-even sheme not just in EDSA but in the whole NCR so that we greatly reduce the carbon emissions in the air that contributes to the global warming.
"Father"
2010-10-13 20:54:43 UTC
It will not help the public and the motorist, ......the major road from makati to monumento is the EDSA, it will be very hard to the motorist to look for alternative route just to escape for the add-even scheme program of the MMDA, it will create big traffic on the side road or barangay road because most of the motorist will use the side road, hindi magiging maayos dahil hindi rin mababawasan ang mga sasakyan bagkos mag bibigay pa ito ng malaking abala sa malilit na kalsada. Ang kailangan dito ay TAMANG SISTEMA NG MAG SASA AYOS NG TRAPIKO. Ang dami na nating traffic enforcer (MMDA,Highway Patrol, LTO flying squad, DOTC traffic enforcer, PNCC and ever barangay tanod) SISTEMA lang talaga. Chairman Tolentino i admire you for your work, we've been together during your presidency of LCP i saw your wisdom for a change when you make tagaytay a character city, wala kayong binago sa tagaytay pero inaayos nyo ang sistema. I hope i share something for you. God bless!
?
2010-10-14 02:49:07 UTC
This will utterly be useless as this move will clog the small side streets and alternate routes around EDSA. As vehicles will avoid EDSA during the times of the “Odd-Even Scheme”, they will be using smaller streets which are not designed to handle that much vehicular volume. This is not a complete solution since it will only remedy the volume of vehicles on EDSA but; will cause bigger problems around the other streets/roads and alternate routes around EDSA. It’s as “logically” simple as that.



Joey Villanueva

Quezon City
Dranne Rovero
2010-10-14 02:46:05 UTC
NO. This is unfair to the poor and will be favorable only to the rich who can afford to buy more than one car or vehicle. What MMDA should do is improve the road conditions, improve the traffic control equipment and penalized drivers who are fond of swerving, overtaking and singit. MMDA should work for the revision of the traffic law so that those who violates them can be given heavier penalties and/or longer jail sentences or be banned from driving.
?
2010-10-19 16:56:04 UTC
No.. am not in favor... the reason for the traffic is the u-turn slots.. it effectively reduces a 6 lane road to a 2 lane road... lets use the u turn sparingly and revert to the normal left and right turns on a yield basis...that is why EDSA is a 5 km /hr road.
Francis Gerard
2010-10-14 01:51:12 UTC
Changing the current situation would lead to several arguments, debates and misunderstandings. The best thing the government should do is to improve the effeciency of the current policies and to strengthen the discipline to every citizen. Every improvement or change should always has a vision regardless of the reactions of few. The vision on changing the current policy on coding should be communicated to every one. The vision should benefit the majority and should have a long term permanent gain to everyone.
bluetiful
2010-10-14 01:27:00 UTC
As usual, the solution lacks merit. Please, we are filipinos, we are lateral thinkers. let's not give one solution when we know traffic includes several other decisions that must be taken up and considered for it to be effective. for one, and I know LTO and LTFRB are familiar with this, let the old vehicles 15years and more be phased out and should no longer use the roads. the solution again to car owners of these old models is this: let the government require the manufacturer to take in the old car as if the owner gets a rebate on upgrading his car. this way, the manufacturers are even assured of loyal clients, manufacturers must enjoy tax incentive from the government for recycling points on metals and rubbers. This gives reason for the new car to be priced as affordable. now, if the owner cannot afford the new car, involve banks to give incentives. BIR can have a better tracking on lifestyle check. let LTO implement that an individual registering several vehicles be assigned with a single plate number, help BIR as usual. there's more to push these solutions by asking the government to allow rebates on taxes for road users/vehicle owners instead of DPWH spending on road widening. yes, this is also a call for the government to consider the birth of a philippine car and its own manufacturing plant. car-manufacturing is a major major determinant of economic stability, along with construction.
Mark Clifford Koo
2010-10-13 11:04:54 UTC
To lessen the traffic in EDSA and also pollution, instead of EURO 2 standards, dapat gawin syang EURO 4 requirement for Jeeps, Busses, and Cars.... Just like Honda.
ravnos
2010-10-13 06:25:44 UTC
if there's one thing that i notice that's causing traffic, it's the congestion in some places that the MMDA/Police hardly ever notice. Note of the following: Guadalupe (north/south bound), Ortigas (north/south bound), Boni MRT both north and south bound, Cubao. Ever wondered what are the common things with these areas? A large number of buses use these as their 10-30min stay terminals. What's funny is that these MMDA and Police let them stay that long there



If you want to cut down emissions, why not be strict and firm on stopping those smoke belchers, and even impound these vehicles if needed be until it gets fixed?
grekgad
2010-10-13 22:19:34 UTC
The odd-even scheme is NOT the best solution and with number coding still in effect, confusion will come into play. Get rid of the busses there are too many of them or move them to a one-way street over in either direction. 80% of those busses are running empty of passengers.
Gilbert
2010-10-14 06:10:52 UTC
Sure, it will lessen the number of cars but would you think MMDA wont evade under the table by private owned cars even bus companies just to let them pass. First of all, we should implement a better way to monitor and provide strict compliance within the MMDA group. But we need to provide better access of MRT since with that implementation again, it may cause people crammed in all train rides. The MMDA should talk with the MRT, LRT and other public transportation companies to prevent frustration towards passengers. It will lead to disobedience.
?
2010-10-13 18:07:11 UTC
NO!!! the only problem in EDSA are the buses try fixing that problem first bago nyo isama ang mga private cars mabawasan lang bus at jeep sa EDSA ok na yan eh or kahit wag lang sila lalabas sa yellow lanes dun lang sila pwede.
?
2010-10-13 17:26:12 UTC
its a little inconvenient but they are correct in proposing for such scheme. I hope it really reduces the volume of traffic and make traveling more cost efficient. Environmentally this will really help us save on gas and on green house emission. More people will commute and less traffic for everyone. For personal convenience, i don't agree but everyone has to do their share for our country. We will only prosper if everyone will share the burden of small sacrifices, that is why my small inconvenience could be my contribution for a better Philippines.
Jul
2010-10-13 15:24:36 UTC
i agree with reviving the odd-even scheme for edsa. i don't believe it's the best solution for the traffic jam, but it's worth a try.
Carlo Lorenzo
2010-10-14 00:31:28 UTC
I don't think that would be effective. What the government should instead do is to raise taxes when purchasing private vehicles similar with other countries such as Singapore and Thailand. This will provide additional revenue for the government which can be used to construct high-quality roads and highways.
Arman
2010-10-13 21:43:44 UTC
1. Implement the UVVRP for buses plying EDSA then let us see the effect.

2. Continue with the apprehension of UVVRP offenders, NO EXCEPTIONS.

3. Continue with the apprehension of colorum buses/puvs, NO EXCEPTIONS.

4. Continue with the apprehension of smoke belchers, NO EXCEPTIONS.

5. Continue with the apprehension of non-working front/tail/signal lights, NO EXCEPTIONS.



Tingnan ko lang kung hindi umayos yang trapik sa EDSA. Dami nyan...
?
2010-10-13 19:41:29 UTC
to be honest it would be better if they changed the color coding scheme to odd even if they really want to reduce the number of vehicles.



everything has their good and bad sides, for me one major problem from this is the government is letting the private vehicles take the hurt whereas the public vehicles are not reprimanded from clogging the roads



well sa totoo lang kasalanan rin ng tao yan, kasi hindi naman sumusunod ang pinoy sa bus stop kaya kung san san rin tumitigil ang bus "convenience sa isang tao pero nahahassle lahat" ginagawa rin naman ng tricycle at jeep to sa maliliit na roads



other good suggestions for them to control emissions or traffic, is to have a scheme that restricts the age of all cars going around the metro. like mas mataas ang taxes pag mas luma, other countries are doing this if i am not mistaken
juls9265
2010-10-13 15:54:20 UTC
No. Relocate bus stations along Edsa. Enforce strictly bus lanes.
jhoelgbha
2010-10-14 02:54:29 UTC
yes im in favor except for city buses, city buses should be exempt in this scheme just imagine during rush hour from shaw to monumento buses are full to capacity SRO standing room only. Maybe for private vehicle only. MMDA should thing about it. I myself is a commuter without this scheme it took me 1 1/2 hours to ride a bus from Cubao to Monumento and most of the time the bus if full and the only way is to push myself in the bus just for me to get home.
Byron
2010-10-13 20:58:45 UTC
Definitely against this proposal. Why are we being punished for the govt's lack of foresight? Why do we have to suffer the burden? There should be more roads, more bridges, and better enforcement of rules and regulations. Gov't should fix dilapidated roads, construct more roads and bridges, better implementation of laws, and improve significantly mass transport system. We work hard to buy vehicles because we have one of the worst mass transport system in the world. This is the role of our gov't, improve the current situation, while we citizens, our main contributions are taxes and more disciplne in driving.
?
2010-10-14 00:16:17 UTC
it would only benefit a few who can afford to have many cars...does anyone in the goverment have solutions that benifits the common people....this is a perennial problem in edsa..and solutions are just being recyled, we been used to initiate solutions but are allways short lived ...is it time to focus on city planning such as alternate route to be constructed...minimize buses by creating more job opportunities not just bus bussiness...improve mass transit...
?
2010-10-13 21:32:07 UTC
Odd-even? by what? lessen vehicles that are traveling AGAIN!? No way Jose!.

What we need is "Discipline" and "Enforcement". No kotong,No "anak ako ni ganito eh" or "tito ko si ganito" crap. all violators must pay the fine. MMDA must drop the hammer so all motorist will follow. MMDA must add more enforcers to be assign for "PURSUIT" if a motorists violates and evades with a snob effect.



I think MMDA should start here. im sure they wont think for new schemes anymore.
?
2010-10-13 19:36:14 UTC
i do not agree, kaya nga na scrap the first time ginamit coz it did not work, so i strongly disagree, coz it is going to make it a living hell for us private vehicle owner. Traffic in Edsa is caused by the bus drivers.
Kinky Man
2010-10-13 09:09:37 UTC
minor solutions for major problems. that's our MMDA.



it would only bring inconvenience to the vehicle owners while only minimal or no benefit at all for the commuters.



if they really want to solve this daily dilemma, they shouldn't revive a previously implemented scheme, that perhaps didn't even worked before, much more now where vehicle volume is greater.



big problems aren't solved with rash ideas...

... and please, we all know that this global warming thing, is just another excuse for this to be passed.
Berdie
2010-10-14 01:32:21 UTC
Discipline starts in evry heart of car owners and operators.Traffic can be avoided if all motorists will obey rules and regulations implemented by authorities.To our MMDA officials try to implement new set of rules and standards that could be benificial and ever effective.Please refrain from experimenting policies which may bring doubt to our fellow.Maintain the trust and confidence entrusted on you.
?
2010-10-13 21:11:10 UTC
Can't the MMDA understand that the heavy traffic are meanly created by my our bus and jeepny driver who take things in their own hand by stoping anywhere; any time as they wish?

Why are enforcers not taking any action on them even if it happen right in front of their eyes? Instead if a private car make a illegal stop or wrong turn, they will go right after them ........!

Hey we all know what is happening in MMDA, don't we?
Jose Laurentino
2010-10-13 19:18:01 UTC
yes im in favor w the odd-even scheme as long as it is only applicable along edsa
?
2010-10-13 17:13:38 UTC
NO, the solution is not reducing the vehicles but DISCIPLINE to bus, jeepneys and private drivers. In short everybody! MMDA should be more strict in implementing road rules. look at commonwealth, no rules. people crossing the highway, motorcycles stopping in the middle of the highway. swerving buses!
2010-10-13 16:13:47 UTC
YES !!!!!!! In order to lessen the time of commuting tardiness are always blamed to the heavy traffic though others are getting early but the same is futile since heavy congested roads and streets are every where.
Toto
2010-10-13 06:54:27 UTC
No.



That's why the government built the MRT in the first place. The only shortfall of the project (IMHO) is the lack of foresight that there are also commuters who would want to bring their vehicles and park them beside the terminals (similar to the BART system in california).
?
2010-10-13 05:10:25 UTC
No. Our current Vehicluar Volume Reduction Program is working already.
2014-10-24 02:58:11 UTC
One suggestion is to decipline riders and drivers, try what ayala traffic descipline, one cannot ride or get down at non designated area. May be jail for a while riders on wrong place... would deminish drivers to stop at an awkward position.
Praveen
2014-10-12 07:28:11 UTC
One suggestion is to decipline riders and drivers, try what ayala traffic descipline, one cannot ride or get down at non designated area. May be jail for a while riders on wrong place... would deminish drivers to stop at an awkward position.
2014-05-27 05:27:57 UTC
But we need to provide better access of MRT since with that implementation again, it may cause people crammed in all train rides. The MMDA should talk with the MRT, LRT and other public transportation companies to prevent frustration towards passengers. It will lead to disobedience.
?
2010-10-14 01:41:44 UTC
They should do this only for buses. Ever notice that the buses plying EDSA are almost always half empty. Less buses, less pollution, less traffic.
?
2010-10-18 00:18:02 UTC
NO, the best thing MMDA can do is to reduce the number of buses plying along EDSA.There should be a law requiring old buses must be phase out maximum five years of used.
?
2010-10-13 10:45:26 UTC
I dont agree with this. Instead of bringing back the color coding scheme, the MMDA should instead improve its enforcement of traffic rules. Some of them as simple as swerving, proper observance of the PUV yellow lane, buses using bus stops properly, etc.
2015-04-07 06:45:28 UTC
Look at how they pile up and wait for passengers. There is no organization or discipline in the way they drive as well. Bus drivers here can do better than Vin Diesel in fast and the Furious.
?
2010-10-13 05:22:19 UTC
it's good that they take the initiative to make a solution in one of the greatest contributor that worsen global warming. only few people see the importance of taking care of our mother earth. maybe they can also push through with electric vehicles or use more bio fuels vehicles more often rather than petroleum. that's how i guess will simply help prevent(well it's better) or shall i say slows the further expansion of global warming.
Robertson Rivera
2010-10-14 02:42:55 UTC
i think the best solution is to make the buses and other publictransport in metromanila to be run by the government so that there will be no competition and they can make some routes and time table so that not all buses and jeepy are in the same place waiting for passengers. it will be bad for the private operators but it will be benificialy to the public commuters.
Ramya
2014-06-13 21:03:06 UTC
But since we only have a small number of trains, people would be pushing just to get inside the trains (train passengers would agree with me). People would have to wait for the next train to come because the first train is already full. if there are too many passengers in the train, it would lead to accidents. in addition, our government would increasing the train fare.
Vanessa
2014-05-28 08:05:57 UTC
But since we only have a small number of trains, people would be pushing just to get inside the trains (train passengers would agree with me). People would have to wait for the next train to come because the first train is already full. if there are too many passengers in the train, it would lead to accidents. in addition, our government would increasing the train fare.
Mon Q
2010-10-13 22:26:39 UTC
Its a no no!... to reduce the volume of traffic, the proper gov't. agency should control the sales or regulate the volumes of sales from car manufaturers specially the sales of second hand cars from abroad (basura galing sa ibang bansa ibebenta pa sa mga pinoy). To LTO ....they should not renew registration of those cars above 15 years at yung mga kakarag-karag na puro usok pa.
Noli
2010-10-14 02:40:11 UTC
two (2) programs running at the same time may confuse commuters and tend to forget the limitations of the law.. besides the present UVVRP scheme is i believe already working well and any amendments to the law may precepitate confusion... so my answer is NO, I DON'T AGREE...
ajcr
2010-10-14 03:01:46 UTC
Highway 54 (EDSA), of course if MMDA will enforced this scheme, it will reduced the volume of vehicles cruising EDSA. The question is, papaano naman yung mga taong masyadong maaapektuhan ang tanging ikinabubuhay? Natupad nga ang gusto ng MMDA, marami naman ang nakatakdang magutom, masasabi bang successful ang MMDA pag nangyari sa mga taong bayan ang magutom? Please lang tingnan ninyo sa lahat ng angles ang inyong mga plano. Magiging biktima nanaman ang pulubing tulad nating JUAN DELA CRUZ.
Jen
2010-10-13 17:38:43 UTC
I agree, this will benefit many people specially those who pass EDSA everyday.
maxine_7x
2010-10-13 10:11:27 UTC
I think it would be a great idea to revive the odd-even scheme. It may be a great solution but I don't see it as the best one out there. But it would definitely help our cause. :)
2010-10-13 05:03:27 UTC
Yes, i'm in favor.



I've noticed that unpopular strategies and reforms initiated in our country, while obviously geared to benefit the common good of the great majority, have been fiercely resisted.



Little things like that are great leaps in the long term. We need a sea change.
gab-NOY
2010-10-13 18:47:19 UTC
why dont you make a revision of the law for BUSSES? are your "YELLOW LANES" still working? i bet not!

frankly, ive been passing edsa for god knows how long...

the freakin' BUSSES and their "careless, swapang drivers" are the cause for the traffic in edsa!!!!!

why dont you take a good look at that? Mr.MMDA chairman? dont pass the blame on us! ( private sectors.).....

Or, sa sobrang dami mong "auto" hindi mo ramdam ung ipapatupad mong kalokohan! kase hindi ka naman maaapektohan!!!!!!!!

think about it BOSS!!!!
Primalscream
2010-10-13 19:25:22 UTC
Dahil sa edsa lang ang odd/even scheme, lahat ng mga apektadong sasakyan maga-alternate route! Hindi rin malaki ang bawas ng sasakyan sa maynila. Tinanggal mo lang ang trapik sa edsa pero nilipat mo sa ibang kalsada.



Shuttle service ang gamit ko araw araw - kung mag-odd/even scheme, pahihirapan lang ang mga nagco-commute dahil ayaw na ng mga hinayupak na shuttle na yan na mag-makati dahil matatrapik sa C5 (alternate route ng EDSA) kung bawal sasakyan nila sa EDSA sa araw na iyon. Gugustuhin nalang nila mag-ortigas para hindi na aabot ng EDSA.



Bakit di nalang pagbawal yung mga sasakyan na 1 or 2 lang ang sakay during rush hour para ma-encourage ang carpooling.
renato
2010-10-13 07:25:48 UTC
Im not in favor of the said proposal. Try to repair all pot holes and apprehend traffic violators
?
2010-10-14 01:29:02 UTC
i think its better improve na lang yng color coding implement din nila sa public utility vehicle like bus taxi, jeep and fx. and no more window straight 7am to 7pm ang coding. at ipag bawal din ang mga motorcycle sa main road at bicycle at pedi cab. kahit sa c5 may bicycle dumadaan sa flyover kahit sa edsa may bicycle at pedi cab. o kaya may coding din ang mga motorcycle.im not in favor of odd even mas magulo.
?
2010-10-13 16:31:31 UTC
No, I am not in favor of this revised car-coding. What the authorities should DO is STRICTLY IMPLEMENT the current carcoding sysytem, and violators should be penalized accordingly!!!
?
2010-10-14 01:33:14 UTC
color coding, number coding, uvvrp (?), odd even... WHATEVER new scheme you hatch would be of NO VALUE if you cannot enforce it properly!!! These public utility drivers make fun of our mmdas & other law enforcers and make them look stupid ooopppsss, make that VERY STUPID!!! THEY VIOLATE ALL KNOWN TRAFFIC RULES ON EARTH AND GET AWAY WITH IT!!! Odd even my ***, ill just use my other car (like one posted below!)... Implement your traffic rules & arrest all offenders!! ONLY THEN WILL YOU EARN OUR RESPECT!!!
Shaun
2010-10-13 22:39:19 UTC
i think they should do it! theres too much traffic and pollution!! help save the world! another thing, the government should do something about the smoke filled trucks and jeeps. you can literally see the smog in the air. its sad that the government put restrictions on the number of polluting jeeps and trucks.
neo22
2010-10-13 20:20:18 UTC
you guys can have as many traffic scheme **** as you want, i have enough cars with different plates anyway. it's those with just one car who will be affected. so if you only have one car or have none but planning of having one someday then you better think twice before going along with this additional **** scheme.
?
2010-10-13 05:35:24 UTC
it is a big No since it is obvious that the MMDA people are just experimenting without considering the trouble they will impose on the motorists, just like business, they should first conduct a thorough study of the project
bitoy
2010-10-16 23:45:18 UTC
non sense,, it will only aggrevate the influx of vehicles on secondary roads,, you cant fool filipino drivers specially taxi's and utilities drivers from scouring from other routes,, they have already other alternate routes from plying edsa,, of course you may clear edsa from reducing the volume of vehicles from using it, but you cannot prevent them from using other alternate routes which is much narrow streets than edsa,,
?
2010-10-13 21:59:59 UTC
@ eric

don'tyou know that poverty can never be solved, that it can be lessen only?

poverty not solved = crime rate follows = poverty rate up: crime rate up vice versa



so if your saying that instead of implementing this scheme and solve poverty and crimes first we can assume that this government will go nowhere if you wont be doing anything else. What's important is to do what we can do now WHILE planning for the bigger problems ( poverty and crimes ).



i agree to the scheme
?
2014-11-06 14:57:38 UTC
C RULES. THEY HAVE NO COMMON SENSE.

NO!!! we dont need THE number coding in any form.YOUR IDEAS SUCKS!!!

The new MMDA SHOULD WAKE UP !!THE PROBLEM IS SIMPLE,.SOLUTION IS SIMPLE..

what we need in this country is enforcement of rules regulations and laws.

not more schemes.

*remove illegal terminals of jeepneys which clogged the streets.TRY MO
?
2010-10-13 21:15:49 UTC
It has always been the case in MMDA when there is a new adminitration. Someone always would want a "Claim to Fame", thinking they can make a BIG difference. THINK LONG TERM "KIDS"!
?
2010-10-13 17:13:58 UTC
Pwede
Benjamin
2010-10-13 14:40:21 UTC
Yes, I am in favor but you have to exempt the privately owned vehicles.
leo
2010-10-13 07:50:35 UTC
They should fix MRT first before they implement this. Its been hell riding MRT for the past three years, imagine if they implemented this scheme.



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?
2010-10-13 23:25:52 UTC
IF this will be implemented, then PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION (most especially MRT, LRT and buses) and OTHER TRAFFIC SCHEMES (bus terminals, etc) should be improved.
Miguel Ma. Enrique
2010-10-13 07:56:07 UTC
YES I BELEIVE IT WOULD HELP SOLVED THE DAILY TRAFFIC CONGESTIONS SPECIALLY IN METRO MANILA AND LESS CARBON EMISSIONS
jenard27
2010-10-14 00:00:05 UTC
Para sken mas maganda.limit ng sasakyan,lahat ng privite car may oras ang byahe,like for example 6am to 10am cut off ng privite cars,pati mga track at delivery track,cut off din ng ganun oras,mga public car lang ang makikita sa kalsada ng ganun oras at pagdating ng 11am to 5pm pwede na sila bumyahe ulit cut off naman ng 6pm to 10pm,pang publiko na ssakyan..siguro mabbawasan ang trapik..
known
2010-10-13 21:34:50 UTC
definitely YES!! para na man maging smooth sailing ang mga jeepney,, at the same time para naman hindi masyadong grabe ang traffic..
rish_724
2010-10-14 01:23:56 UTC
Gusto ko yung goal ng MMDA. Pero hindi yan yung pinaka-solution sa traffic sa EDSA. Let's enumerate the problem. First, yung mga bus/jeepney/taxi drivers dapat dinidisiplina. Hindi yung kung san san biglang hihinto tapos magbaba o magsasakay. Dapat may certain loading and unloading area lang. kasi nakakabara sila sa daanan imbis na tuloy tuloy yung flow ng sasakyan. Pati mga pasahero kumilos ng konti. maglakad lang ng konti. Kasi isa yan as major problem sa EDSA. Susunod naman, dapat disiplinado din yung drivers ng mga private vehicles. Hindi yung kung saan saan lang kumakaliwa kahit bawal nga doon kumaliwa. Dapat din hindi puro kotong yung MMDA. Dapat kumilos din sila hindi yung nagaabang lang ng mga violation ng motorists. Dapat din, maging maganda na yung daanan natin. Kasi kung may mga lubak, talagang magmamabagal yung mga drivers syempre iniingatan nila yung sasakyan nila. Pag may stop light, minsan naka-go pa rin kahit wala ng sasakyan, eh di sayang sa gas, sayang pa yung ilang seconds. Eh di gawin ng MMDA na pag wala naman ng dumadaan, alalayan nila at ipa-go na nila yung ibang sasakyan. gets?



okay yung gusto ng MMDA pero malamang rin eh mag hanap ng ibang route yung mga motorista. Eh di dun naman magtraffic.
Michelle O
2010-10-14 03:06:18 UTC
Yehey, more customers for modus operandi, pickpockets, hold-upers! And one more violation to add to motorists for MMDA kotongers!
bhwi13
2010-10-14 00:38:22 UTC
reduce the franchise of buses specially the one's with accident cases.
YLB
2010-10-13 18:59:14 UTC
reduce the number of racing buses, discipline to abusive bus drivers and skyway...
Alex
2010-10-14 02:33:57 UTC
I am not in favor to this proposal
?
2010-10-13 07:17:22 UTC
No I do not agree, not with the present public transportation system that we have!
Alex
2010-10-13 18:07:46 UTC
No, that is unreasonable. MMDA should resolve first the problem of colorum.
2010-10-13 05:34:54 UTC
im not agree with that. try to resolve first the poverty and crime. before you implement that non-sense issue.... and reaction with your non sense idea, try to lessen the colorum bus...
Jorgen T
2010-10-13 15:00:24 UTC
THAT'S RIDICULOUS!!!! Only the rich and famous can benefit from that infamous scheme.....THUMBS DOWN!!!
?
2010-10-13 20:01:32 UTC
YES!!! SANA MEROON DIN NG



SABADO AT LINGGO SA MGA



PANG PUBLIKONG SASAKYAN



SALAMAT
?
2010-10-13 08:24:33 UTC
i think dispose all the buses (passengers) and very old vehicles

use motorbike and bicycle.
tunaNINJA
2010-10-15 08:33:31 UTC
discipline will make EDSA a wonderful highway.,
?
2010-10-14 00:18:22 UTC
Yes, becuase many will benifit on it.
?
2010-10-14 02:05:39 UTC
yes
Daanish
2016-02-20 10:10:56 UTC
*do not put the PNP on enforcing traffic rules,they only do it for KOTONG PURPOSES.
?
2010-10-14 01:42:10 UTC
MMDA... Major Major Dumb @ss
?
2010-10-13 08:16:15 UTC
i think it's ok it's high time to focus on our environment now
?
2010-10-13 19:14:02 UTC
I am in favor, i think it will lessen the trafffic thanks for the proposed scheme
raymund t
2010-10-13 14:00:27 UTC
YES! Go for it!
?
2010-10-13 08:44:38 UTC
Yes. hope it'd work.
2010-10-13 18:15:07 UTC
There's nothing wrong in trying....
?
2016-03-03 10:46:35 UTC
*DO NOT SWEEP ALONG EDSA DURING RUSH HOUR. YES MMDA DOES IT DURING RUSH HOUR.
?
2010-10-16 01:28:14 UTC
No
?
2010-10-13 05:33:35 UTC
No


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